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    Coach’s Prayers Prompt Supreme Court Test of Religious Freedom
    Joseph Kennedy, a football coach at a public high school in Washington State, lost his job after praying on the 50-yard line after games.

    BREMERTON, Wash. — Joseph Kennedy, who used to be an assistant coach for a high school football team near Seattle, pointed to the spot on the 50-yard line where he would take a knee and offer prayers after games.

    He was wearing a Bremerton Knights jacket and squinting in the drizzling morning rain, and he repeated a promise he had made to God when he became a coach.

    “I will give you the glory after every game, win or lose,” he said, adding that the setting mattered: “It just made sense to do it on the field of battle.”

    Coaching was his calling, he said. But after the school board in Bremerton, Wash., told him to stop mixing football and faith on the field, he left the job and sued, with lower courts rejecting his argument that the board had violated his First Amendment rights.

    The Supreme Court will hear arguments in the case on Monday, and there is good reason to think that its newly expanded conservative majority will not only rule in Mr. Kennedy’s favor but also make a major statement about the role religion may play in public life. The court’s decision, expected by June, could revise earlier understandings about when prayer is permitted in public schools, the rights of government employees and what counts as pressuring students to participate in religious activities.

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    Hope he wins

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post
      Hope he wins
      And when coach Said el-Hassan kneels and bows on his prayer rug toward Mecca at the 50, and kids feel pressured to join, you're good?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by W*GS View Post

        And when coach Said el-Hassan kneels and bows on his prayer rug toward Mecca at the 50, and kids feel pressured to join, you're good?
        🤣🤣🤣🤣

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        • #5
          Originally posted by W*GS View Post

          And when coach Said el-Hassan kneels and bows on his prayer rug toward Mecca at the 50, and kids feel pressured to join, you're good?
          Coach said el Hassan doesn’t even know what football is

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

            🤣🤣🤣🤣
            Well? Should SCOTUS be principled or partisan?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by W*GS View Post

              Well? Should SCOTUS be principled or partisan?
              Unless there is coercion, there is only expression.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by W*GS View Post

                And when coach Said el-Hassan kneels and bows on his prayer rug toward Mecca at the 50, and kids feel pressured to join, you're good?
                Or how about the folks from the local chapter of the Church of Satan?

                That will be the real acid test, won’t it?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post

                  Unless there is coercion, there is only expression in an inappropriate forum.
                  FYP.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Agent Zero View Post

                    Coach said el Hassan doesn’t even know what football is
                    Right. So ridiculous.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                        Right. So ridiculous.
                        So my Muslim students who play football don't know what it is? Very racist and not very Christian once again Shell. Jesus is starting to rip up your fishing license.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ElwayMD View Post

                          So my Muslim students who play football don't know what it is? Very racist and not very Christian once again Shell. Jesus is starting to rip up your fishing license.
                          Good Lord. Give me a break.

                          How is it not Christian? Jesus is the only way. Period. That is Christianity.

                          That said, God does allow free will. Let the Muslim’s pray. I work with many overseas contractors. I don’t agree with their Holy days, but they have them off nonetheless.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN View Post
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                            That’s a flawed human viewpoint.

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                            • #15
                              Unless he forced those kids to pray, this should be a no-brainer. I'm shocked that it's actually made it to the supreme Court. This isn't a mandated curriculum inside a public school.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by ElwayMD View Post

                                So my Muslim students who play football don't know what it is? Very racist and not very Christian once again Shell. Jesus is starting to rip up your fishing license.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Garcia Bronco View Post
                                  Unless he forced those kids to pray, this should be a no-brainer. I'm shocked that it's actually made it to the supreme Court. This isn't a mandated curriculum inside a public school.
                                  If you want playing time, you gotta get on coach’s good side. How does a kid do that?

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post

                                    Unless there is coercion, there is only expression.
                                    A Muslim coach prays at the 50. Still cool?

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                                    • #19
                                      As long as it wasn't coerced or a condition of being a team member, I don't see the harm- especially after the game as most everybody else is heading to the parking lot. We have a lot of other issues in the country, this really doesn't seem to move the needle on urgency to me.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by B-Large View Post
                                        As long as it wasn't coerced or a condition of being a team member, I don't see the harm- especially after the game as most everybody else is heading to the parking lot. We have a lot of other issues in the country, this really doesn't seem to move the needle on urgency to me.
                                        And when schools start the day with a mandatory prayer?

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by W*GS View Post

                                          And when schools start the day with a mandatory prayer?
                                          Parochial School, sure. Public School, no. After a football game having a voluntary spiritual moment is just part of life. I couldn’t read the story, so I don’t have all the details…

                                          as long a Xtians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Sun Worshippers are all free to have the connection with the god of their understanding I, I don’t see the harm.

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                                            Jesus said to pray in a 'closet,' not on the 50-yard line

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                                            • #23
                                              I guess what evidence is there of “compulsory”…

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by W*GS View Post

                                                A Muslim coach prays at the 50. Still cool?
                                                He can pray wherever he wants. As long as he doesn't expect anyone to pray with him.

                                                That's the whole 'free exercise' thing that's so hard to understand, I know.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post

                                                  He can pray wherever he wants. As long as he doesn't expect anyone to pray with him.

                                                  That's the whole 'free exercise' thing that's so hard to understand, I know.
                                                  I doubt this is the answer you'll get from Shelly and the Christian Dominionists who constitute Trump's support base.

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