I mean, we all know differences of opinion regarding the QB are coming, so ----
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Originally posted by elsid13 View Post
One of the greatest single game QB performance in Denver history. I was like we have our next Franchise QB. Then his dog blindsided him.
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Originally posted by Blueflame View PostI mean, we all know differences of opinion regarding the QB are coming, so ----
this one was the weirdest IMO. Lots of subplots and conspiracies. I see it as it comes down to Fangios job security. If he’s got to choose which will give him a better chance it’s not surprising he went with the QB that didn’t almost get him fired last year.
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Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
Amazing isn’t it? Every year we got battles within the fanbase over QBs competitions.
this one was the weirdest IMO. Lots of subplots and conspiracies. I see it as it comes down to Fangios job security. If he’s got to choose which will give him a better chance it’s not surprising he went with the QB that didn’t almost get him fired last year.
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Originally posted by AlaskaMagnum View Post
Yeah but pinning your job security on Teddy? Without Adrian Peterson in the backfield?
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Originally posted by AlaskaMagnum View Post
Going to be even worse watching Jones make the Pats relevant again
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Originally posted by elsid13 View PostI feel this is going to be a brutal year on offense. Lots of frustration watching talent get wasted because we don't have a QB.
If neither Bridgewater or Lock can perform well given the weapons on the roster—that just goes to show you they were never "good" options in the first place. Furthermore, that Pat Shurmur doesn't need to be around anymore.
4,000 yards, 25 touchdowns (and half the INTs), and a completion percentage of at least 65-percent is my baseline for the year. That should be doable. It's pretty much as middle-of-the-pack as one could get.
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Originally posted by Requiem View Post
There is absolutely no reason it should be brutal. My expectations are top half of the league. That should be good enough to win 10 or 11 games.
If neither Bridgewater or Lock can perform well given the weapons on the roster—that just goes to show you they were never "good" options in the first place. Furthermore, that Pat Shurmur doesn't need to be around anymore.
4,000 yards, 25 touchdowns (and half the INTs), and a completion percentage of at least 65-percent is my baseline for the year. That should be doable. It's pretty much as middle-of-the-pack as one could get.
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Originally posted by Requiem View Post
There is absolutely no reason it should be brutal. My expectations are top half of the league. That should be good enough to win 10 or 11 games.
If neither Bridgewater or Lock can perform well given the weapons on the roster—that just goes to show you they were never "good" options in the first place. Furthermore, that Pat Shurmur doesn't need to be around anymore.
4,000 yards, 25 touchdowns (and half the INTs), and a completion percentage of at least 65-percent is my baseline for the year. That should be doable. It's pretty much as middle-of-the-pack as one could get.
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I think we all can agree that we are disappointed in what we have at the QB position. The majority of people will say that Lock should have been the starter from day one and it was his spot to lose, and some will say that he did not improve enough to hold off a journeyman QB like Teddy. But here we are. I'm not tied to any of these two QBs and I just hope for the best with whoever is playing.
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Originally posted by AlaskaMagnum View PostYou really think TB can throw 25 TDS? I mean, I’d love to see it, but I don’t see how that is any less far fetched than Lock becoming Josh Allen
Those percentages are about 5-7 percent less than average. With the talent we have, it shouldn't be that difficult to find a net of 5-10 plays (plus a few elsewhere outside the RZ) to get him to hit that mark. Defenses are going to play man up on a condensed field and we have targets who should easily be able to win one-on-one match-ups.
Execution is one thing, but play-calling in the RZ by Shurmur is another. This team is too talented to fail, IMHO. What I'm expecting honestly isn't that much. It's more or less Teddy (or Drew) and Shurmur finding a way to maximize scoring potential on a dozen of plays in the RZ. If they can't do that, they all need to go.
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Originally posted by elsid13 View PostShurmur will turtle the offense.
They ran a lot of heavy formations last year (with little success) and we saw it in the pre-season (did much better), but he would be a moron to not implement more true 4 WR sets (think AZ/BUF and not flexing out a TE) with who we have at the position to get more explosive play potential. From the looks of things, it certainly seems like they are going to try and replicate something similar to what the Browns did with Mayfield and their RBs last year in Cleveland.
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Originally posted by Requiem View Post
Both Bridgewater (58.5%) and Lock (56%) were both sub-60 percent passers in the red zone last year. Teddy had 9 TDs out of 53 throws inside the 20 with 3 INTs, and Lock had 11 TDs out of 50 throws with 2 INTs. Quite underwhelming. They were both damn near the bottom of the league.
Those percentages are about 5-7 percent less than average. With the talent we have, it shouldn't be that difficult to find a net of 5-10 plays (plus a few elsewhere outside the RZ) to get him to hit that mark. Defenses are going to play man up on a condensed field and we have targets who should easily be able to win one-on-one match-ups.
Execution is one thing, but play-calling in the RZ by Shurmur is another. This team is too talented to fail, IMHO. What I'm expecting honestly isn't that much. It's more or less Teddy (or Drew) and Shurmur finding a way to maximize scoring potential on a dozen of plays in the RZ. If they can't do that, they all need to go.
the old OM I said Lock wouldn’t improve enough this year. Dude lost his job to a journeyman who’s coming off a horrible year in Carolina. I’m wishing for a Tannehill type surprise from Teddy but that won’t happen. I’d settle for him throwing ints in the single digits.
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Originally posted by The1percentKid View PostTeddy was horrendous in the redzone last year. Then he went and blamed it on Carolina not practicing it enough…..I have no hate for Teddy starting but that move was pretty weak. Own the redzone fails instead of blaming coaches. Watching some of those plays Teddy just sucked at executing.
the old OM I said Lock wouldn’t improve enough this year. Dude lost his job to a journeyman who’s coming off a horrible year in Carolina. I’m wishing for a Tannehill type surprise from Teddy but that won’t happen. I’d settle for him throwing ints in the single digits.
I'm hopeful for increased production because we have at least three big-bodied, legitimate threats that their offense lacked. On a positive note, the one thing I liked that I did see from Teddy was when Joe Brady was dialing up four-wide sets and having him do draws. Scored four or five touchdowns by my count going through some of his red zone plays last night. That's something Shurmur should already recognize and be throwing into his RZ plays for Teddy if they aren't already there.
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Both QBs will get plenty of snaps this season. Teddy was the safe choice, but Vic knows Drew will most likely get another shot because there’s no way Teddy stays healthy. This is a wildcard football team with mediocre QB production. Good QB play puts them in a position to go deep into the playoffs. Possible, but not likely.
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