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    What am I missing about him. People talk about him being a great 2nd rd pick, etc. I see a kid that has nice speed, but he is slow at the rest. Slow play diagnosis. Never tackles for a loss. Waits for the runner to get to him. Doesnt shed blocks too well. He reads pass plays nicely. Nice speed. He is not as good as Josey jewell imo. I see him as a 4th/5th round prospect not anywhere close to a 2nd. What am I not seeing about him that everyone else is?

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    Pounds the table with shoe...

    Gimme Rodriguez, Gimme Rodriguez, Gimme Rodriguez.
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    • #3
      I like Muma. I don’t see him as slow to diagnose at all.

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          Well hey, while we are talking about amazing LB prospects. Why don't we take a little time to look at Malcolm Rodriguez? His 36 reps at his pro day beat ALL PLAYERS invited to the combine. The closest to him this year was a 312lb OG from Boston College that put up 32 reps. Dude is a former wrestler and a beast. Somebody is gonna get a steal in rounds 3-5.




          Watch: Oklahoma State LB Malcolm Rodriguez Make 36 Reps on Bench Press Look Easy

          Posted on March 24, 2022
          Oklahoma State is having Pro Day today as all the Cowboys put their talent on display for the NFL scouts, and Malcolm Rodriguez is a name that is drawing a lot of attention this morning.

          The senior linebacker, who ran a 4.52 40-yard dash at the combine earlier this month, put his strength on display on Thursday.

          Rodriguez totaled 36 reps on bench press this morning, which ranks him ahead of all other linebackers at the combine.


          full story: https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2022/03/24/watch-oklahoma-state-lb-malcolm-rodriguez-makes-36-reps-on-bench-press-look-easy/

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          • #6
            Yikes. Rodriguez looks like a stud.

            While I want to like Muma as I have lots of family in Wyoming. I’m with you, average at best. I watched probably 6-7 Wyo games last year and he did not jump off the tape.

            In contrast, Troy Anderson of Montana State was very clearly the best player on the field in every game he played and it wasn’t close.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by FormerlyPassword View Post
              Yikes. Rodriguez looks like a stud.

              While I want to like Muma as I have lots of family in Wyoming. I’m with you, average at best. I watched probably 6-7 Wyo games last year and he did not jump off the tape.

              In contrast, Troy Anderson of Montana State was very clearly the best player on the field in every game he played and it wasn’t close.
              Intriguing

              Andersen's best fit is in a Brandon Staley-style of defense that emphasizes a linebacker's ability to run and play in space. He could also play WILL in a 4-3. That being said, Andersen will need time to get more comfortable playing between the tackles and iron out his coverage skills before taking over a starting role. Andersen is an athletic developmental option who can be a core special teamer early on.
              Troy Andersen NFL Draft 2022: Scouting Report for Montana State LB


              HEIGHT: 6'4" POSITIVES — Great frame. Tall, long build that has been filled out well. — Great speed. Legit sideline-to-sideline ability. — Good vision...



              Last edited by Blueflame; 04-26-2022, 01:20 PM.

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              • #8
                NDSU's offense ran the ball over 50 times for 400+ yards against Troy Andersen and Montana State. Let me know how he did that game then get back to me.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Requiem View Post
                  NDSU's offense ran the ball over 50 times for 400+ yards against Troy Andersen and Montana State. Let me know how he did that game then get back to me.
                  One more and I'll stop (probably). Did you ever hear about a guy named Malcolm Rodriguez? Not only was the the heart and soul of his defense (multi year captain and academic all Big 12 ), he's a great run stopper, pass rusher, and amazing in coverage.

                  He also led his team to a top 5 FBS 2021 defensive ranking in almost every meaningful statistic. Not too bad for a guy not one is talking about (but me of course, sorry).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Requiem View Post
                    NDSU's offense ran the ball over 50 times for 400+ yards against Troy Andersen and Montana State. Let me know how he did that game then get back to me.
                    He was a stud in that game.

                    I do agree, I have a hard time placing a position on Anderson. You almost have to build a defense around him, easy to do at Mt state. But he’s not good enough for a team to do that at a higher level.

                    Seems like a Patriot guy to me.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cmhargrove View Post
                      One more and I'll stop (probably). Did you ever hear about a guy named Malcolm Rodriguez? Not only was the the heart and soul of his defense (multi year captain and academic all Big 12 ), he's a great run stopper, pass rusher, and amazing in coverage.

                      He also led his team to a top 5 FBS 2021 defensive ranking in almost every meaningful statistic. Not too bad for a guy not one is talking about (but me of course, sorry).
                      Solid prospect, but the size limitations are probably going to hurt his draft stock and pro potential.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FormerlyPassword View Post
                        He was a stud in that game.
                        No he wasn't. They ran at him all game long. The Bison decided to push it in and go after a guy who doesn't like to take on blocks head on. Whole defense was dominated that game. Gave up over 8 YPC. 😂

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                        • #13
                          I don’t think we will take an ILB with our 2nd pick.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Requiem View Post

                            Solid prospect, but the size limitations are probably going to hurt his draft stock and pro potential.
                            I agree with this, that's why I think he will be a steal where drafted (I'm predicting late 4th, or 5th round). If he remains healthy and gets his shot - my player comparison would be Zach Thomas from the Dolphins. Similar concerns, 5th rounder, but shined in camp and was elevated quickly to a starting role.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Requiem View Post

                              No he wasn't. They ran at him all game long. The Bison decided to push it in and go after a guy who doesn't like to take on blocks head on. Whole defense was dominated that game. Gave up over 8 YPC. 😂
                              The Bison getting 8 YPC is pretty par for the course.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by FormerlyPassword View Post
                                The Bison getting 8 YPC is pretty par for the course.
                                A few yards higher than their YPC average for the season. Their game plan worked flawlessly. Nobody on the Montana State defense that day gets a helmet sticker.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by cmhargrove View Post

                                  I agree with this, that's why I think he will be a steal where drafted (I'm predicting late 4th, or 5th round). If he remains healthy and gets his shot - my player comparison would be Zach Thomas from the Dolphins. Similar concerns, 5th rounder, but shined in camp and was elevated quickly to a starting role.
                                  That's pretty high praise. The game has changed since then, but it seems like MR at the very least is going to be a special teams ace and back-up. And that's fine with going for on Day 3 of the draft. Watched a few interviews and seems like a great kid. Betting on those team captains with the production and accolades is usually a good call rounds 4-7.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by FormerlyPassword View Post
                                    Yikes. Rodriguez looks like a stud.

                                    While I want to like Muma as I have lots of family in Wyoming. I’m with you, average at best. I watched probably 6-7 Wyo games last year and he did not jump off the tape.

                                    In contrast, Troy Anderson of Montana State was very clearly the best player on the field in every game he played and it wasn’t close.
                                    Is that the kid who played RB/QB/LB? Because he looks like a stud.

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