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  • 5 changes Broncos need to make

    This article is spot on
    The Denver Broncos have slipped to 3-2 on the 2021 season after a tough road loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Some big-time changes need to be made.

  • #2
    That’s about right. Fuller is atrocious, my lord

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    • #3
      Yup to Shurmur getting the hook. **** that guy.

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      • #4
        Is Darby back soon? Heck, I'll take Ojemudia over Fuller at this point

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SGB View Post
          Is Darby back soon? Heck, I'll take Ojemudia over Fuller at this point
          Darby back next week.

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          • #6
            Darby starting and making a change at ILB should be a no brainer. Jewell injury hurt worse then people know.

            It would be gutsy for Vic to change OC. May be needed to give him a shot.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post
              Darby starting and making a change at ILB should be a no brainer. Jewell injury hurt worse then people know.

              It would be gutsy for Vic to change OC. May be needed to give him a shot.
              Jewell was the best LB in the team before he got hurt. Much better than AJ imo

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              • #8
                I agree with all of the suggested changes in the article. The odds of any of them happening in the next week are slim to nil.

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                • #9
                  Trade Fuller for whatever you can get. Ojemudia will be back soon and he’s fine as your 4th corner.

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                  • #10
                    Fangio will wait until the playoffs have completely slipped away before
                    letting Shurmer walk

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Aztec Bronco View Post
                      Trade Fuller for whatever you can get. Ojemudia will be back soon and he’s fine as your 4th corner.
                      Get a 5th from Tampa for him and call it a day.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SGB View Post

                        Jewell was the best LB in the team before he got hurt. Much better than AJ imo
                        He was playing great. Big loss.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Broncos_Avs_4L View Post
                          Fangio will wait until the playoffs have completely slipped away before
                          letting Shurmer walk
                          Yep.

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                          • #14
                            Did Fuller get old all of suddenly, or what?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by R8R H8R View Post
                              Did Fuller get old all of suddenly, or what?
                              He definitely got his ass handed to him. There will be film every team will be looking at from today.

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                              • #16
                                I don't think Fangio will fire Shurmur. First of all, if the team is not competing for the playoffs this season, Fangio knows he's gone. It would be pointless for him to change the coordination of the offense for a few games before he's fired anyway. If anything, it would make him look even more clueless on his way out. Fired Scangarello [coward scapegoat move] under the justification that Shurmur was the experienced OC that would fix the offense, and then decides to fire Shurmur during his second season? It would just confirm that Fangio does not know what he's doing. If he's out, then show some conviction and keep Shurmur along for the final ride.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by -Rod- View Post
                                  I don't think Fangio will fire Shurmur. First of all, if the team is not competing for the playoffs this season, Fangio knows he's gone. It would be pointless for him to change the coordination of the offense for a few games before he's fired anyway. If anything, it would make him look even more clueless on his way out. Fired Scangarello [coward scapegoat move] under the justification that Shurmur was the experienced OC that would fix the offense, and then decides to fire Shurmur during his second season? It would just confirm that Fangio does not know what he's doing. If he's out, then show some conviction and keep Shurmur along for the final ride.
                                  Not looking good for any of the coaches. All seem to be overmatched. Fangio’s defensive wizardry just isn’t there.

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                                  • #18
                                    Outcoached every week on all 3 levels sans a few weeks against the Jets.

                                    it’s been this way since November 2016.

                                    Fangio is not HC material. He belongs in the booth as a coordinator. Which is why no one ever gave him an HC job until Elways dumbass.


                                    at this point we all know Teddy and Lock have no future here. So it’s a wasted season. If Paton likes someone on the staff to become HC in 2022, you fire Fangio the moment they hit 3-6 and promote the person he likes. I doubt Paton is looking at anyone currently on the staff to become HC, so Fangio and Co will play out until end of year to a losing record…fired….then the roster gets broken up entirely for a new system and regime. Von gone. Fuller gone. KJ likely gone. All the potential 2nd contracts of sub par players not even offered. Fant Chubb etc etc do not resign. Even my favorite player Sutton should walk. He’s going to ask for huge money and throwing mass cap space for WR is rough as there’s many examples of it going bad. It’s going to be a major rebuild for a couple years.

                                    this team might put up 8 straight years of losing records.
                                    Last edited by The1percentKid; 10-11-2021, 08:54 AM.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
                                      Outcoached every week on all 3 levels sans a few weeks against the Jets.

                                      it’s been this way since November 2016.

                                      Fangio is not HC material. He belongs in the booth as a coordinator. Which is why no one ever gave him an HC job until Elways dumbass.


                                      at this point we all know Teddy and Lock have no future here. So it’s a wasted season. If Paton likes someone on the staff to become HC in 2022, you fire Fangio the moment they hit 3-6 and promote the person he likes. I doubt Paton is looking at anyone currently on the staff to become HC, so Fangio and Co will play out until end of year to a losing record…fired….then the roster gets broken up entirely for a new system and regime. Von gone. Fuller gone. KJ likely gone. All the potential 2nd contracts of sub par players not even offered. Fant Chubb etc etc do not resign. Even my favorite player Sutton should walk. He’s going to ask for huge money and throwing mass cap space for WR is rough as there’s many examples of it going bad. It’s going to be a major rebuild for a couple years.

                                      this team might put up 8 straight years of losing records.
                                      It’s actually a great opportunity to completely wash the slate of any Elway GM stamps… Give Paton a real
                                      fresh opportunity to build ground up, and frankly give him a few years to target and acquire the QB he thinks will be the long term solution. Sounds like the collegiate crop is pedestrian, so go BPA and begin to build a talented roster to complement young talent that makes sense to keep around.

                                      this might be the most painful season since 2015, as I thought just maybe this team could compete merely on defense. Wins looks harder to come by after witnessing the last two weeks…

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                                      • #20

                                        I don't want to make too many kneejerk reactions following two games, but I'm pretty close to being done with Fangio as a head coach. Even in his third season, he has no sense of game management. If this team once again fails to finish above .500, I'm all for blowing it up with the front office and starting over.

                                        If the front office is done with Lock, I would like to see them trade him this off season and see what we can get back for him. Teddy is a reliable enough veteran to continue guiding the franchise for the next few years while we attempt to locate a bonafide franchise guy (think Alex Smith in KC)

                                        The front office needs to focus on a younger head coach that is more versed in the current direction of the game. We need a more offensive minded leadership with better understanding of the College game and how to help players transition to the NFL. The surest way to win in the modern NFL is to have a franchise QB. And the surest way to acquire a franchise QB is to have the right staff in place to maximize a prospects talents while slowly training them out of their weaknesses. Counting on that special Snowflake that can overcome bad coaching like Elway did with Reeves is just not playing favorable odds.

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by B-Large View Post

                                          It’s actually a great opportunity to completely wash the slate of any Elway GM stamps… Give Paton a real
                                          fresh opportunity to build ground up, and frankly give him a few years to target and acquire the QB he thinks will be the long term solution. Sounds like the collegiate crop is pedestrian, so go BPA and begin to build a talented roster to complement young talent that makes sense to keep around.

                                          this might be the most painful season since 2015, as I thought just maybe this team could compete merely on defense. Wins looks harder to come by after witnessing the last two weeks…
                                          That’s the number 1 problem, although not the only one. This team was supposed to be lights out defense. The $ that are spent on that side of the ball leave Fangio no excuses. I see a bend but don’t break defense that doesn’t create many turnovers.

                                          Shurmur always waits until the end of games to start doing things that work.

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                                          • #22
                                            Originally posted by B-Large View Post

                                            It’s actually a great opportunity to completely wash the slate of any Elway GM stamps… Give Paton a real
                                            fresh opportunity to build ground up, and frankly give him a few years to target and acquire the QB he thinks will be the long term solution. Sounds like the collegiate crop is pedestrian, so go BPA and begin to build a talented roster to complement young talent that makes sense to keep around.

                                            this might be the most painful season since 2015, as I thought just maybe this team could compete merely on defense. Wins looks harder to come by after witnessing the last two weeks…
                                            Mind blowing how much they whiff at QB over years. Meanwhile teams across the league find QBs. The afc is now littered with QB talent. Even Carolina wasn’t dumb enough to use Teddy and found a player in the league.


                                            this team is likely 5-0 4-1 with Watson. ****ing rub and tugs.

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by v2micca View Post
                                              I don't want to make too many kneejerk reactions following two games, but I'm pretty close to being done with Fangio as a head coach. Even in his third season, he has no sense of game management. If this team once again fails to finish above .500, I'm all for blowing it up with the front office and starting over.

                                              If the front office is done with Lock, I would like to see them trade him this off season and see what we can get back for him. Teddy is a reliable enough veteran to continue guiding the franchise for the next few years while we attempt to locate a bonafide franchise guy (think Alex Smith in KC)

                                              The front office needs to focus on a younger head coach that is more versed in the current direction of the game. We need a more offensive minded leadership with better understanding of the College game and how to help players transition to the NFL. The surest way to win in the modern NFL is to have a franchise QB. And the surest way to acquire a franchise QB is to have the right staff in place to maximize a prospects talents while slowly training them out of their weaknesses. Counting on that special Snowflake that can overcome bad coaching like Elway did with Reeves is just not playing favorable odds.
                                              I agree. The young coaches are the trend that is working. We had Chargers coach on our staff.

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
                                                Mind blowing how much they whiff at QB over years. Meanwhile teams across the league find QBs. The afc is now littered with QB talent. Even Carolina wasn’t dumb enough to use Teddy and found a player in the league.

                                                this team is likely 5-0 4-1 with Watson. ****ing rub and tugs.
                                                Darnold sh*t the bed yesterday. Will be interesting to find out over the next few weeks if his good start was a mirage or if Sunday was just a bad day. Also notable that McCaffrey didn’t play. When they lost him last year they fell apart as well.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                                                  That’s the number 1 problem, although not the only one. This team was supposed to be lights out defense. The $ that are spent on that side of the ball leave Fangio no excuses. I see a bend but don’t break defense that doesn’t create many turnovers.

                                                  Shurmur always waits until the end of games to start doing things that work.
                                                  Chubb out and Fuller being incompetent have changed the complexion of that Defense, and bend don’t break is okay if you have an offense that can chew up clock and close out drive more often than not.

                                                  But yeah, the quote about lack of urgency is on full display. Our offense looked like they were going through the motions for better part of 2.5 quarters. That offense doesn’t seem to have a vocal leader anywhere… they start in one gear and seem stuck there most of the time… pedestrian

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