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    A recent analysis from the nonpartisan Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center estimated that 57% of Americans paid no taxes last year. While that's down slightly from last year's 60%, it marks a significant increase from the 44% recorded before the pandemic began.



    This is insane. What happened to the democrat slogan of paying your fair share? I don’t want to hear the bullshit talking points about the rich not paying taxes when 60% of those people aren’t paying a dime and getting refunds. It’s a flat out myth that wealthy don’t pay taxes..

    I estimated half of this site didn’t pay any income taxes come April 15th and the data above is right in line with that….

    people getting refunds crying about others needing to pay their fair share…..precious.


    Now dumbass Biden wants 20% of all wealthy income households in his new budget plan.….what makes it YOUR money when WE earn it?

    punish success…..reward laziness. The IRS liberal tax policy way…

  • #2
    The rich already pay enough taxes

    only poor jealous people demand they be taxed more

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Agent Zero View Post
      The rich already pay enough taxes

      only poor jealous people demand they be taxed more


      Mind blowing how people are so bad with finances. They’ll buy a brand new car with nothing down so it’s a massive car payment on minimum wage jobs….then complain they have no money.


      Minimum wage jobs are seen a CAREERS….lmao.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post



        Mind blowing how people are so bad with finances. They’ll buy a brand new car with nothing down so it’s a massive car payment on minimum wage jobs….then complain they have no money.


        Minimum wage jobs are seen a CAREERS….lmao.
        Just pure laziness and stupidity. Who the hell buys a brand new car when you make $9 an hour. I put most of the blame on the education system

        they need to have more mandatory finance classes for young people.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
          A recent analysis from the nonpartisan Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center estimated that 57% of Americans paid no taxes last year. While that's down slightly from last year's 60%, it marks a significant increase from the 44% recorded before the pandemic began.



          This is insane. What happened to the democrat slogan of paying your fair share? I don’t want to hear the bullshit talking points about the rich not paying taxes when 60% of those people aren’t paying a dime and getting refunds. It’s a flat out myth that wealthy don’t pay taxes..

          I estimated half of this site didn’t pay any income taxes come April 15th and the data above is right in line with that….

          people getting refunds crying about others needing to pay their fair share…..precious.


          Now dumbass Biden wants 20% of all wealthy income households in his new budget plan.….what makes it YOUR money when WE earn it?

          punish success…..reward laziness. The IRS liberal tax policy way…
          You do realize that when those 60% file for that refund they put their income and it is computed of how much taxes they owe for their circumstances, then the refund is what they overpaid.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Agent Zero View Post
            The rich already pay enough taxes

            only poor jealous people demand they be taxed more
            Considering that the rich are supposed to pay 39% of their income and only pay 10% of that 39% and the middle class owe 25% and pay 95% of that, no one wants the rich to pay more, just their share. Get a flat tax and we'll all be happy, well somewhat.

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            • #7
              Sounds like the US economy isn’t working well for 60% of the population…

              we’ve known that for 40 years… thanks for reminding us again, I guess?

              😂

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Agent Zero View Post

                Just pure laziness and stupidity. Who the hell buys a brand new car when you make $9 an hour. I put most of the blame on the education system

                they need to have more mandatory finance classes for young people.
                Invest invest invest. Set your child up at birth with a mutual fund that becomes a money giving tree years later. One of the easiest ways people just ignore.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gunns View Post

                  Considering that the rich are supposed to pay 39% of their income and only pay 10% of that 39% and the middle class owe 25% and pay 95% of that, no one wants the rich to pay more, just their share. Get a flat tax and we'll all be happy, well somewhat.
                  Taking 20% of someone’s income just because they succeeded in life is targeting….make 100K I’m taking 20K because i know how to spend your money better than you do…even though that 20K was earned by you.

                  all for govt programs that fail anyways. Not one aspect of the govt runs properly. Not one. From the national parks to DMVs to VA health to franchise tax boards to CalTrans to CalFresh to IRS etc etc.. All gutterball returns.



                  speaking of CalFresh and govt programs that fail, right on cue :


                  A day after a Hearst investigation found that the state's CalFresh and CalWorks programs are losing millions of dollars a month to organized crime, the Department of Social Services – which oversees those programs – is responding to our questions.

                  https://www.ksbw.com/article/state-r...fraud/39545491


                  so let’s take more money from people who go through life hitting bullseyes and give it to politicians and govt programs that couldn’t throw a dart against a barn wall.


                  wasteful spending. This is why the wealthy has a problem with it. Not so much taking earned money, but taking it and using it on bullshit fails….giving it to illegal aliens…blown out pensions….stupid green bullet train rabbit holes…billions to corrupt countries etc etc.
                  Last edited by The1percentKid; 03-26-2022, 09:30 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post

                    Invest invest invest. Set your child up at birth with a mutual fund that becomes a money giving tree years later. One of the easiest ways people just ignore.
                    Yeah because everyone is rich enough to have the ability to do that. 😂

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                    Might as well just ask your Dad for a $1M loan like Trump did. 👍🏻 (Dammit, why didn’t I think of that??!! 😩🥴)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post

                      Taking 20% of someone’s income just because they succeeded in life is targeting….make 100K I’m taking 20K because i know how to spend your money better than you do…even though that 20K was earned by you.

                      all for govt programs that fail anyways. Not one aspect of the govt runs properly. Not one. From the national parks to DMVs to VA health to franchise tax boards to CalTrans to CalFresh to IRS etc etc.. All gutterball returns.



                      speaking of CalFresh and govt programs that fail, right on cue :


                      A day after a Hearst investigation found that the state's CalFresh and CalWorks programs are losing millions of dollars a month to organized crime, the Department of Social Services – which oversees those programs – is responding to our questions.

                      https://www.ksbw.com/article/state-r...fraud/39545491


                      so let’s take more money from people who go through life hitting bullseyes and give it to politicians and govt programs that couldn’t throw a dart against a barn wall.


                      wasteful spending. This is why the wealthy has a problem with it. Not so much taking earned money, but taking it and using it on bullshit fails….giving it to illegal aliens…blown out pensions….stupid green bullet train rabbit holes…billions to corrupt countries etc etc.
                      Well, I wasn't talking about those on gov't asst. They cannot file taxes on that money anyway or get refunds. I'm speaking of middle class. I'm not totally for the EIC either. Maybe part jealousy. I never qualified for EIC although I had 6 children because I was already making too much by the time it came out. The largest tax refund I ever got was $1500, one time. My kids now get $8000-$10000. I agree, why? They chose to have the kids and if it's tough raising them, that should promote birth control. I'm on a fixed income now and I still pay every year. More than Trump's paid. And no, I am not happy where my money is spent. If there is one section of the population I would like to see addressed it's the single tax payer with no children. But again I say, flat tax.

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                      • #12
                        I'd like to address this....

                        I was born into a middle to lower class family and my parnets divorced when was 4.

                        I dug myself a big hole by having my first kid in high school, married her, and had 2 more kids before age 23. got divorced. Had full custody of the 3 kids. Got government help in 2 forms...daycare assistance, and a grant that helped pay for me to go to college. By the time I had met and married my second wife (CINDY) ...I had a decent job...and after a while she learned to do nails. We were not rich. We were net tax payers.

                        I want to be clear, I am forever thankful that I got daycare assistance so I could work and go to school and a grant that paid about half my tuition...(wich was only about 15k for a 2 year associates in electronics...the ROI on it has been insane) ....The programs I used were intended to help someone like me join the ranks of the productive, tax paying memeber of our society...which I have...for a long time now.

                        That said...my wife and I have made a BIG bet on her ability to do nails, understand the pricing, customers, employees, supplies and all that....when I say big bet...I mean..EVERYTHING we had..every penny we had...and more..bank loans...loans from family...and a hefty loan from some folks who I like to call vietnames mafia (they aren't, but close enough) .......

                        We are now very well off and we are expanding to 2 more shops very soon....again, at substantial financial risk...

                        To make that work...I have spent countless hours fixing things, building things, dealing with permits, and people and bankers, and so on...it's not fun. For her part, Cindy works every day of the week...often for 12 hours or more...alot of that is doing nails and managing her people...but a there are hours and hours of cleaning, getting things ready, getting supplies, payroll, hiring, firing.

                        Our nail salon grossed 1.75 million. Net about 250k. at my day job, I made about 120k.

                        I'm not asking anyone anywhere to feel sorry for us. We are doing just fine....but it's a huge punch in the gut to have written a check for 72k in 2021 and another due in april that will be 59k.

                        We employee 22 people and do our best to see to it that all of them do well (they are) I am tired of hearing how I don't pay my "fair share"....that to be where we are now...we must have stepped on peoples heads on the way up the ladder....that we don't deserve the nice things we have....to those people I would say simply....GO F**K YOURSELF!.

                        Me, my associates degree, average sized penis, and my imported, poor englsh speaking, no diploma wife...have earned every penny.

                        I am not against helping people who need some help. I got some. I used it and took advantage of it. ...I HATE....CAN NOT STAND the losers in life out there who are like hitchhikers, that haven't got a damn thing....wanting to tell me where to drive my car. GTFO.

                        It will never happen..but damn do we need a flat tax....

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Zerovoltz View Post
                          I'd like to address this....

                          I was born into a middle to lower class family and my parnets divorced when was 4.

                          I dug myself a big hole by having my first kid in high school, married her, and had 2 more kids before age 23. got divorced. Had full custody of the 3 kids. Got government help in 2 forms...daycare assistance, and a grant that helped pay for me to go to college. By the time I had met and married my second wife (CINDY) ...I had a decent job...and after a while she learned to do nails. We were not rich. We were net tax payers.

                          I want to be clear, I am forever thankful that I got daycare assistance so I could work and go to school and a grant that paid about half my tuition...(wich was only about 15k for a 2 year associates in electronics...the ROI on it has been insane) ....The programs I used were intended to help someone like me join the ranks of the productive, tax paying memeber of our society...which I have...for a long time now.

                          That said...my wife and I have made a BIG bet on her ability to do nails, understand the pricing, customers, employees, supplies and all that....when I say big bet...I mean..EVERYTHING we had..every penny we had...and more..bank loans...loans from family...and a hefty loan from some folks who I like to call vietnames mafia (they aren't, but close enough) .......

                          We are now very well off and we are expanding to 2 more shops very soon....again, at substantial financial risk...

                          To make that work...I have spent countless hours fixing things, building things, dealing with permits, and people and bankers, and so on...it's not fun. For her part, Cindy works every day of the week...often for 12 hours or more...alot of that is doing nails and managing her people...but a there are hours and hours of cleaning, getting things ready, getting supplies, payroll, hiring, firing.

                          Our nail salon grossed 1.75 million. Net about 250k. at my day job, I made about 120k.

                          I'm not asking anyone anywhere to feel sorry for us. We are doing just fine....but it's a huge punch in the gut to have written a check for 72k in 2021 and another due in april that will be 59k.

                          We employee 22 people and do our best to see to it that all of them do well (they are) I am tired of hearing how I don't pay my "fair share"....that to be where we are now...we must have stepped on peoples heads on the way up the ladder....that we don't deserve the nice things we have....to those people I would say simply....GO F**K YOURSELF!.

                          Me, my associates degree, average sized penis, and my imported, poor englsh speaking, no diploma wife...have earned every penny.

                          I am not against helping people who need some help. I got some. I used it and took advantage of it. ...I HATE....CAN NOT STAND the losers in life out there who are like hitchhikers, that haven't got a damn thing....wanting to tell me where to drive my car. GTFO.

                          It will never happen..but damn do we need a flat tax....
                          A flat tax would essentially strip politician of a bulk of their power over the populace… that will never, ever happen… though I think I simple flat tax system would be the best policy by far…

                          being s small to medium size business owner is a nightmare… you guys earn every cent of that 250k, I’m sure of that.

                          the average size penis addition is hilarious… you’re a great poster Zero, even for a chiefs fan!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Zerovoltz View Post
                            I'd like to address this....

                            I was born into a middle to lower class family and my parnets divorced when was 4.

                            I dug myself a big hole by having my first kid in high school, married her, and had 2 more kids before age 23. got divorced. Had full custody of the 3 kids. Got government help in 2 forms...daycare assistance, and a grant that helped pay for me to go to college. By the time I had met and married my second wife (CINDY) ...I had a decent job...and after a while she learned to do nails. We were not rich. We were net tax payers.

                            I want to be clear, I am forever thankful that I got daycare assistance so I could work and go to school and a grant that paid about half my tuition...(wich was only about 15k for a 2 year associates in electronics...the ROI on it has been insane) ....The programs I used were intended to help someone like me join the ranks of the productive, tax paying memeber of our society...which I have...for a long time now.

                            That said...my wife and I have made a BIG bet on her ability to do nails, understand the pricing, customers, employees, supplies and all that....when I say big bet...I mean..EVERYTHING we had..every penny we had...and more..bank loans...loans from family...and a hefty loan from some folks who I like to call vietnames mafia (they aren't, but close enough) .......

                            We are now very well off and we are expanding to 2 more shops very soon....again, at substantial financial risk...

                            To make that work...I have spent countless hours fixing things, building things, dealing with permits, and people and bankers, and so on...it's not fun. For her part, Cindy works every day of the week...often for 12 hours or more...alot of that is doing nails and managing her people...but a there are hours and hours of cleaning, getting things ready, getting supplies, payroll, hiring, firing.

                            Our nail salon grossed 1.75 million. Net about 250k. at my day job, I made about 120k.

                            I'm not asking anyone anywhere to feel sorry for us. We are doing just fine....but it's a huge punch in the gut to have written a check for 72k in 2021 and another due in april that will be 59k.

                            We employee 22 people and do our best to see to it that all of them do well (they are) I am tired of hearing how I don't pay my "fair share"....that to be where we are now...we must have stepped on peoples heads on the way up the ladder....that we don't deserve the nice things we have....to those people I would say simply....GO F**K YOURSELF!.

                            Me, my associates degree, average sized penis, and my imported, poor englsh speaking, no diploma wife...have earned every penny.

                            I am not against helping people who need some help. I got some. I used it and took advantage of it. ...I HATE....CAN NOT STAND the losers in life out there who are like hitchhikers, that haven't got a damn thing....wanting to tell me where to drive my car. GTFO.

                            It will never happen..but damn do we need a flat tax....
                            Your averaged sized penis is mandingo sized in Vietnam

                            well done sir

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by B-Large View Post
                              Sounds like the US economy isn’t working well for 60% of the population…

                              we’ve known that for 40 years… thanks for reminding us again, I guess?

                              😂
                              I love it when dumb people learn new things!

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Mile High Salute View Post

                                Yeah because everyone is rich enough to have the ability to do that. 😂

                                Might as well just ask your Dad for a $1M loan like Trump did. 👍🏻 (Dammit, why didn’t I think of that??!! 😩🥴)
                                Those poor kids did a very bad job of choosing their parents! Very low energy! I only like the rich kids with rich parents! Poor kids just need to stop being so lazy and try harder! Especially the brown skinned ones!

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Mozzafiato View Post

                                  I love it when dumb people learn new things!
                                  I mean it isn’t very hard to make this simple jump- as wealth concentrates in the hands of less citizens, more people will begin to fall to the no net tax threshold….

                                  and they pay do pay taxes, just not federal income tax…

                                  sad!

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                                      We have a larger group of homeless employees than I would have ever imagined.... I think we found people sleeping in their cars in the garage....

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                                        Originally posted by El Minion View Post
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                                        Excuses

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                                          • #22
                                            Originally posted by B-Large View Post

                                            We have a larger group of homeless employees than I would have ever imagined.... I think we found people sleeping in their cars in the garage....
                                            With housing the way it is you can't afford a place unless you want to have 3-4 roommates. This is what I read about getting an apartment in DC: If you are renting an average priced 1-bedroom apartment in Washington, DC, your annual salary should be around $97,760 or higher. Insanity! We are just incentivizing staying on the government payouts and are basically going to bankrupt ourselves at some point unless we either raise taxes or find practical solutions to our out of control housing markets.

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by Zerovoltz View Post
                                              I'd like to address this....

                                              I was born into a middle to lower class family and my parnets divorced when was 4.

                                              I dug myself a big hole by having my first kid in high school, married her, and had 2 more kids before age 23. got divorced. Had full custody of the 3 kids. Got government help in 2 forms...daycare assistance, and a grant that helped pay for me to go to college. By the time I had met and married my second wife (CINDY) ...I had a decent job...and after a while she learned to do nails. We were not rich. We were net tax payers.

                                              I want to be clear, I am forever thankful that I got daycare assistance so I could work and go to school and a grant that paid about half my tuition...(wich was only about 15k for a 2 year associates in electronics...the ROI on it has been insane) ....The programs I used were intended to help someone like me join the ranks of the productive, tax paying memeber of our society...which I have...for a long time now.

                                              That said...my wife and I have made a BIG bet on her ability to do nails, understand the pricing, customers, employees, supplies and all that....when I say big bet...I mean..EVERYTHING we had..every penny we had...and more..bank loans...loans from family...and a hefty loan from some folks who I like to call vietnames mafia (they aren't, but close enough) .......

                                              We are now very well off and we are expanding to 2 more shops very soon....again, at substantial financial risk...

                                              To make that work...I have spent countless hours fixing things, building things, dealing with permits, and people and bankers, and so on...it's not fun. For her part, Cindy works every day of the week...often for 12 hours or more...alot of that is doing nails and managing her people...but a there are hours and hours of cleaning, getting things ready, getting supplies, payroll, hiring, firing.

                                              Our nail salon grossed 1.75 million. Net about 250k. at my day job, I made about 120k.

                                              I'm not asking anyone anywhere to feel sorry for us. We are doing just fine....but it's a huge punch in the gut to have written a check for 72k in 2021 and another due in april that will be 59k.

                                              We employee 22 people and do our best to see to it that all of them do well (they are) I am tired of hearing how I don't pay my "fair share"....that to be where we are now...we must have stepped on peoples heads on the way up the ladder....that we don't deserve the nice things we have....to those people I would say simply....GO F**K YOURSELF!.

                                              Me, my associates degree, average sized penis, and my imported, poor englsh speaking, no diploma wife...have earned every penny.

                                              I am not against helping people who need some help. I got some. I used it and took advantage of it. ...I HATE....CAN NOT STAND the losers in life out there who are like hitchhikers, that haven't got a damn thing....wanting to tell me where to drive my car. GTFO.

                                              It will never happen..but damn do we need a flat tax....
                                              You're supposed to pay that quarterly. Else you get penalized.

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                                                Originally posted by Agent Zero View Post

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                                                  Originally posted by El Minion View Post
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                                                  Exactly...so let's make them tax deductible. That doesn't fix the cash flow problem for the individual, but it's an operating expense and the money spent should not be counted as income.

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