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    Now it appears that China knew about the invasion beforehand and asked Putin to hold off until after the Olympics.
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/world...tel/index.html

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    Originally posted by Roh View Post
    Now it appears that China knew about the invasion beforehand and asked Putin to hold off until after the Olympics.
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/world...tel/index.html
    Makes one wonder if there's any connection to that (doing China a favor by delaying the invasion until after the Olympics) in the decision not to disqualify the Russian skater...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

      Makes one wonder if there's any connection to that (doing China a favor by delaying the invasion until after the Olympics) in the decision not to disqualify the Russian skater...
      No doubt. I wanted us to pull out of it. We should have.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Roh View Post

        No doubt. I wanted us to pull out of it. We should have.
        If only Mao’s Dad had pulled out… 🤷🏼‍♂️

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Roh View Post
          Now it appears that China knew about the invasion beforehand and asked Putin to hold off until after the Olympics.
          https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/world...tel/index.html
          RIP Denny Green

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          • #6
            What do you expect from a country who created Covid-19 then lied to everyone saying it wasn’t transmissible?


            shithole country loves this. It’s why they voted no today.

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            • #7
              no matter what china does our politicians, wall street, Hollywood etc will all just ignore it and keep sucking up to them.

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              • #8
                China sucks

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                • #9



                  China not emerging as lifeline for Russian economy


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                  • #10
                    Ya, China continues to suck. Much like they have ever since we gave them favored nation status. Wish we could have walked that one back.

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                    • #11
                      The unfortunate thing about China is that the odds of the social and political order ever changing are almost zero. Feudalism and authoritarianism have been baked into the culture for millennia. It begins with the family, i.e., parents, elders and anyone higher in the pecking order are treated with absolute, unquestioning deference and obedience.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN View Post
                        The unfortunate thing about China is that the odds of the social and political order ever changing are almost zero. Feudalism and authoritarianism have been baked into the culture for millennia. It begins with the family, i.e., parents, elders and anyone higher in the pecking order are treated with absolute, unquestioning deference and obedience.
                        Respectfully disagree here.

                        They went from a monarchy to communist dictatorship in the blink of an eye a few decades ago. There was no unquestioning deference or obedience in that sudden (and shocking) transfer of power at that time. One power group simply rose up and took control.

                        Confucianism is a guiding principle in China on many levels, but power is as power does (even in the inscrutable far east).

                        In the future, another group may take control -- it will be through the politics of power, though, not the politics of ideology.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BowlenBall View Post

                          Respectfully disagree here.

                          They went from a monarchy to communist dictatorship in the blink of an eye a few decades ago. There was no unquestioning deference or obedience in that sudden (and shocking) transfer of power at that time. One power group simply rose up and took control.

                          Confucianism is a guiding principle in China on many levels, but power is as power does (even in the inscrutable far east).

                          In the future, another group may take control -- it will be through the politics of power, though, not the politics of ideology.
                          Went China transitioned from monarchy to a communist dictatorship, it merely traded one form of authoritarianism for another, however consciously.

                          Confucianism, for all its merits, is, in large part, responsible for instilling the "pecking order" social organization I mentioned.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN View Post

                            Went China transitioned from monarchy to a communist dictatorship, it merely traded one form of authoritarianism for another, however consciously.

                            Confucianism, for all its merits, is, in large part, responsible for instilling the "pecking order" social organization I mentioned.
                            Respectfully disagree

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN View Post
                              The unfortunate thing about China is that the odds of the social and political order ever changing are almost zero. Feudalism and authoritarianism have been baked into the culture for millennia. It begins with the family, i.e., parents, elders and anyone higher in the pecking order are treated with absolute, unquestioning deference and obedience.
                              Propaganda is such a huge part of authoritarian governments. They can't exist without it. China diligently controls the message. Of course, every government you can think of exists on its "shared" narrative, even ours. This is why wanna-be despots go after control of the narrative first. Ergo, the critical need for a free press or, as Trump calls it, "the enemy of the people."

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Roh View Post

                                Propaganda is such a huge part of authoritarian governments. They can't exist without it. China diligently controls the message. Of course, every government you can think of exists on its "shared" narrative, even ours. This is why wanna-be despots go after control of the narrative first. Ergo, the critical need for a free press or, as Trump calls it, "the enemy of the people."
                                Yes, and this is why it's so destructive to establish the notion that lies are "alternative truths" that "should be given equal time" by the media. I mean -- when a society is so poorly-educated that there is no mass outcry when a President states that Revolutionary War generals defended airports...

                                That was a literal "What the actual f*** !!!" moment.

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                                • #17
                                  With the Russian threats of damaging nuclear power plants and using nuclear weapons, we see the strategy of the Russia-China axis. They are desperate to dismantle the world order lead by the west. China did this with Corona and now Russian is even threatening attacks on European nuclear reactors. These are acts of desperation, leading the world on a suicide path.

                                  We cannot allow nuclear weapons in dictatorship countries I feel. We can't have a single mad dictator holding the world hostage with these weapons. Even the old Soviets had the politburo bureau to push back on the leader, there is no one to push back on Putin. It is like Hitler having a nuclear weapon. The UN is failing, doing next to nothing tangible and letting Russian control voting. I think the UN has to really get the world together and work to stop dictatorships from having nuclear weapons. Push for every nuclear country to have monitored free elections as a massive goal.
                                  Last edited by uplink; 03-04-2022, 08:48 AM.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by uplink View Post
                                    With the Russian threats of damaging nuclear power plants and using nuclear weapons, we see the strategy of the Russia-China axis. They are desperate to dismantle the world order lead by the west. China did this with Corona and now Russian is even threatening attacks on European nuclear reactors. These are acts of desperation, leading the world on a suicide path.

                                    We cannot allow nuclear weapons in dictatorship countries I feel. We can't have a single mad dictator holding the world hostage with these weapons. Even the old Soviets had the politburo bureau to push back on the leader, there is no one to push back on Putin. It is like Hitler having a nuclear weapon. The UN is failing, doing next to nothing tangible and letting Russian control voting. I think the UN has to really get the world together and work to stop dictatorships from having nuclear weapons. Push for every nuclear country to have monitored free elections as a massive goal.
                                    How are you going to get their nukes? That’ll be even harder than trying to take away everyone in America’s guns. 🤣

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                                    • #19
                                      All my life, I've watched the representatives of China and Russia blatantly lie into the camera. Nonstop. Such is the voice of totalitarians. Like Orwell said, "The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth."

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Mile High Salute View Post

                                        How are you going to get their nukes? That’ll be even harder than trying to take away everyone in America’s guns. 🤣
                                        Don't you know?

                                        In uplink's world of make-believe, all you have to do is believe something and it will be true. 😉

                                        That's how things work on MAGA Fantasy Island.

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                                        • #21
                                          Russia and China want to get away from the dollar. Kind of why they recently destroyed it with inflation. When the bond market went upside down recently...

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                                          • #22
                                            U.S. warns China not to aid Russia

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                                            • #23
                                              Looks like the CCP is supporting Putin's plan to just destroy Ukrainian cities and kill thousands of civilians. Supporting blatant war crimes by a terrorist state that doesn't belong in the UN.

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by OmegaBronco View Post
                                                Russia and China want to get away from the dollar. Kind of why they recently destroyed it with inflation. When the bond market went upside down recently...
                                                How was the dollar "destroyed" by inflation?

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by W*GS View Post

                                                  How was the dollar "destroyed" by inflation?
                                                  That would be news to FX traders.

                                                  I wonder if he's checked the dollar index and exchange rates lately?

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