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    In August the Texas Senate passed the Republican election integrity bill after an unsuccessful Democrat filibuster ended after 15 hours. Via the America First Audit Channel. The vote passed by an 18-11 margin. Democrats tried to shut this audit down too — IN TEXAS! Why are they so terrified of audits? On Thursday the Texas…

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    CITIZEN FREE PRESS reported last night that a draft of the Arizona Audit was leaked out. From our sources we learned this was an early draft.  It was not the report that will be released later today. Wendy Rogers, State Senator from Arizona had this to say: I just talked to Doug Logan via phone.…

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    • #3
      Ugh, what is the point of this? What do you hope gets accomplished by this audit? Because in the end, nothings going to happen.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post
        CITIZEN FREE PRESS reported last night that a draft of the Arizona Audit was leaked out. From our sources we learned this was an early draft. It was not the report that will be released later today. Wendy Rogers, State Senator from Arizona had this to say: I just talked to Doug Logan via phone.…
        Hate to quarrel with your reportorial skills there , but the final report leaked from Cyber Ninjas, and the results, as reported below, will include that a) there was no fraud found, b) Biden still won, this time with more votes than the official total AZ's electors reported, and c) Trump still lost, but this time with a handful fewer votes.

        But spdirty is right - about Woodrow Wilson and this. What good would it do you if this rank-amateur outfit announced "Trump won!" ???

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        Last edited by DomCasual; 10-04-2021, 07:29 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BroncoBuff View Post

          Hate to quarrel with your reportorial skills there, but the final report leaked from Cyber Ninjas, and the results, as reported below, will include that a) there was no fraud found, b) Biden still won, this time with more votes than the official total AZ's electors reported, and c) Trump still lost, but this time with a handful fewer votes.

          But spdirty is right - about Woodrow Wilson and this. What good would it do you if this rank-amateur outfit announced "Trump won!" ???

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          I’m not living in the past with my hopes on Trump. My hope is Jesus. I do believe that there was fraud and I will fight for fair elections. All Americans should want free & fair elections.

          I’m so glad my hope is not in man or politics because it’s all corrupt. Jesus will set it all right once & for all.

          John 2:24
          But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all me
          Last edited by DomCasual; 10-04-2021, 07:29 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by spdirty View Post
            Ugh, what is the point of this? What do you hope gets accomplished by this audit? Because in the end, nothings going to happen.
            Free & fair elections. Do I truly think we will get them? Nope. Corruption. But, I shall continue to fight.

            Jesus is my hope. Politics will be at an end.

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            • #7
              Like the California recall effort, a lot of taxpayer money was wasted and nothing changed. **shrug**

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              • #8
                The Texas audit won't prove anything either. Another waste of time. Some people are just too stupid to move on.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Requiem View Post
                  The Texas audit won't prove anything either. Another waste of time. Some people are just too stupid to move on.
                  It's a waste of money as well as time -- and the Constitution does not provide for a do-over on an already-certified election, so nothing's gonna change regardless. Spending millions of dollars trying to prove nonexistent "fraud" that won't change the results regardless seems -- silly. There are so many areas where those taxpayer funds would actually accomplish something.

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                  • #10
                    Nothing matters until they fix November 3rd.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Blueflame View Post
                      It's a waste of money as well as time -- and the Constitution does not provide for a do-over on an already-certified election, so nothing's gonna change regardless. Spending millions of dollars trying to prove nonexistent "fraud" that won't change the results regardless seems -- silly. There are so many areas where those taxpayer funds would actually accomplish something.
                      Yep. It's a sad state of affairs. Donald Trump, the ultimate grifter and narcissist, didn't like Arizona's conclusions so he calls up his buddy Greg Abbott and demands an audit there—but only in a few select counties Biden won. Abbott complies without question. Let's not forget that Texas is a state that Trump won by 600,000 votes. It's not going to prove anything at all. A waste of time, money, and resources just because DJT is a sore loser and a crybaby.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Blueflame View Post
                        Like the California recall effort, a lot of taxpayer money was wasted and nothing changed. **shrug**
                        When you say nothing changed you mean the corruption? I agree. Still there.

                        I know that’s not what you meant, but 80 mm people don’t buy it anymore.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 69bronco View Post
                          Nothing matters until they fix November 3rd.
                          Amen. Millions upon millions are standing up. More every day.

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                            Americans across the country are calling to decertify election results in Arizona. One individual on Twitter showed how ballots showed up per Dr. Shiva with stamps certifying ballots behind the print on the page. What was that? AZ Audit Forensic Analysis: Magically, the ‘Verified & Approved’ stamp ended up BEHIND the original print on the…

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                            • #15
                              The Gateway Pundit. 😂

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                                When you say nothing changed you mean the corruption? I agree. Still there.

                                I know that’s not what you meant, but 80 mm people don’t buy it anymore.
                                Fraud has to actually happen in order for an audit to find it. There was no fraud to find in the very limited Arizona audit.

                                Let's be realistic here -- audits and recounts of election ballots are useless on a very limited scale. If there were jusification for a recount, then to do any good at all, every. single. ballot. needs to be recounted. In every. single. state. Not just "a county" here and there in a state or two. And if it's going to be done, that needs to happen before the election is certified; not damn near a year afterwards.

                                At some point, it's time to move on and stop wasting resources on Election 2020 (IMHO, that time was Inauguration Day).

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                                • #17
                                  Yeah, except the Consititution does not provide for "decertification" of an election. So this article advocates disregarding the Constitution.....

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

                                    Fraud has to actually happen in order for an audit to find it. There was no fraud to find in the very limited Arizona audit.

                                    Let's be realistic here -- audits and recounts of election ballots are useless on a very limited scale. If there were jusification for a recount, then to do any good at all, every. single. ballot. needs to be recounted. In every. single. state. Not just "a county" here and there in a state or two. And if it's going to be done, that needs to happen before the election is certified; not damn near a year afterwards.

                                    At some point, it's time to move on and stop wasting resources on Election 2020 (IMHO, that time was Inauguration Day).
                                    I didn’t expect anything to change. That’s politics. That’s man. My expectation for change is not politics. It’s Jesus. I do think the last election was corrupt. I’m clearly not the only one. It has changed our country and elections going forward.

                                    I chuckle every time I think about that election being on Noah’s day and reading what Jesus said.

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                                      Originally posted by Blueflame View Post
                                      Yeah, except the Consititution does not provide for "decertification" of an election. So this article advocates disregarding the Constitution.....
                                      The Gateway Pundit is a misinformation palace for kooks. Jim Hoft is a known liar, conspiracy theorist, and propaganda artist. Did you honestly expect Baloney was going to post anything that was halfway credible and sane? Of course not.
                                      Last edited by DomCasual; 10-04-2021, 07:29 PM.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post
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                                        I didn’t expect anything to change. That’s politics. That’s man. My expectation for change is not politics. It’s Jesus. I do think the last election was corrupt. I’m clearly not the only one. It has changed our country and elections going forward.

                                        I chuckle every time I think about that election being on Noah’s day and reading what Jesus said.
                                        That's precisely the point, though -- why waste taxpayer dollars if nothing's going to change? As for any Americans thinking the last election was corrupt, that depends 100% on whether or not that American believes Donald Trump. Perhaps 30% of the voters do believe him -- but the majority do not; nor do they support their tax dollars being devoted to flogging a dead horse with continuing audits.

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by Requiem View Post
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                                          The Gateway Pundit is a misinformation palace for kooks. Jim Hoft is a known liar, conspiracy theorist, and propaganda artist. Did you honestly expect Baloney Tony was going to post anything that was halfway credible and sane? Of course not.
                                          Regardless of the credibility of the source, the article itself advocates doing something that's unconstitutional. Now, if the majority of Americans wanted to make decertifying an election legal, then the Constitution spells out a very specific process for amending it. A process that by design is intended to necessitate the support of an overwhelming majority. But the article doesn't suggest amending the Constitution (the author knows the concept of election decertification wouldn't have the support of even a simple majority). It is not an option to merely disregard the Constitution, however.

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                                          • #22
                                            Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

                                            That's precisely the point, though -- why waste taxpayer dollars if nothing's going to change? As for any Americans thinking the last election was corrupt, that depends 100% on whether or not that American believes Donald Trump. Perhaps 30% of the voters do believe him -- but the majority do not; nor do they support their tax dollars being devoted to flogging a dead horse with continuing audits.
                                            Definition of change? The results of a past election? No. But you have half the country not believing in the process anymore. That’s a problem.

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by Requiem View Post

                                              The Gateway Pundit is a misinformation palace for kooks. Jim Hoft is a known liar, conspiracy theorist, and propaganda artist. Did you honestly expect Baloney Tony was going to post anything that was halfway credible and sane? Of course not.
                                              Censorship is the tool of communists. Deal with the information. Attacking source is for censorship.

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

                                                Regardless of the credibility of the source, the article itself advocates doing something that's unconstitutional. Now, if the majority of Americans wanted to make decertifying an election legal, then the Constitution spells out a very specific process for amending it. A process that by design is intended to necessitate the support of an overwhelming majority. But the article doesn't suggest amending the Constitution (the author knows the concept of election decertification wouldn't have the support of even a simple majority). It is not an option to merely disregard the Constitution, however.
                                                I'm well aware of what the author was trying to convey. Hence my statements.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

                                                  Regardless of the credibility of the source, the article itself advocates doing something that's unconstitutional. Now, if the majority of Americans wanted to make decertifying an election legal, then the Constitution spells out a very specific process for amending it. A process that by design is intended to necessitate the support of an overwhelming majority. But the article doesn't suggest amending the Constitution (the author knows the concept of election decertification wouldn't have the support of even a simple majority). It is not an option to merely disregard the Constitution, however.
                                                  The thing is we have made elections completely unreliable and unbelievable to 80 million+

                                                  We are going to have to deal with that.

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