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    Assuming the Dems don't lock him up, is Trump the nominee, or can someone beat him in the primary?

    I wish he would use his rally power to support another candidate and not run himself, but I don't see his ego allowing that.

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    I hope not.

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    • #3
      If he remains in decent Heath, I think he’ll be the guy. He is chaotic, unable to focus on a process and values personal praise over practical advise… so in that respect he’s somewhat containable.

      I’d be far more scared of a candidate who is tactically and strategically effective…..

      if I were the Democrats I’d be thinking long and hard about whom I the party can appeal to stranded conservative voters. Biden looks really old, I can’t see him in office another 6 years.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by B-Large View Post
        If he remains in decent Heath, I think he’ll be the guy. He is chaotic, unable to focus on a process and values personal praise over practical advise… so in that respect he’s somewhat containable.

        I’d be far more scared of a candidate who is tactically and strategically effective…..

        if I were the Democrats I’d be thinking long and hard about whom I the party can appeal to stranded conservative voters. Biden looks really old, I can’t see him in office another 6 years.
        Do you think Kamala is viable, and if Biden is OK (hope he is), do you think he would willingly step aside for another candidate.

        I agree, unfortunately, that moderates, especially suburban, along with conservatives/moderates that simply dislike Trump more than Democratic policies, are ripe for the taking.

        Off the top of my head, I can't think of a Republican candidate that can beat him in a primary. The ones that have the best shot, are pretty far right, and I'm not sure they would run against him, if he's in the primaries.

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        • #5
          I think there are other candidates that could easily win. If Trump runs it will just be more of this craziness of the Trump derangement syndrome, trying to prosecute him by hook or crook. I mean the 3 year Russia probe was a complete hoax and the AG of NY ran for office just to try and prosecute the Trump family for anything under the sun. The taxes thing was a big non issue in the end, just goes on and on and on and on and on ....
          Last edited by uplink; 01-11-2022, 08:49 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tned View Post

            Do you think Kamala is viable, and if Biden is OK (hope he is), do you think he would willingly step aside for another candidate.
            Kamala can't win, she is terrible. They won't get people out to vote for her, they will have to try and triple down on these ideas that white supremacy is rampant to even be in the game with her and we all don't want to see more of that nonsense. If Kamala had one ounce of political skill she would have realized that this far left wing movement is going away soon and the moderate Dems are going to be the only ones with a voice and an elected position very soon. She should have moved to the center and used her DA experience to pivot on crime and drop all the racism in voting and everything else that can't be explained with tangible examples.

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            • #7
              Regardless of the R candidate, I hope the D's roll with Kamala!

              It'd be a landslide.

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              • #8
                Better not be Trump. If it is it’ll be a loss because too many people are offended by mean tweets.

                Tim Scott could be a choice. He is not boring. Not old. He can bring something other candidates don’t. Passion.

                retreads will get rejected.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BroncoJoe View Post
                  Regardless of the R candidate, I hope the D's roll with Kamala!

                  It'd be a landslide.


                  they stupid, but can they be that stupid? Lol

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
                    Better not be Trump. If it is it’ll be a loss because too many people are offended by mean tweets.

                    Tim Scott could be a choice. He is not boring. Not old. He can bring something other candidates don’t. Passion.

                    retreads will get rejected.
                    Isn't he still banned from Twitter?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by uplink View Post
                      I think there are other candidates that could easily win. If Trump runs it will just be more of this craziness of the Trump derangement syndrome, trying to prosecute him by hook or crook. I mean the 3 year Russia probe was a complete hoax and the AG of NY ran for office just to try and prosecute the Trump family for anything under the sun. The taxes thing was a big non issue in the end, just goes on and on and on and on and on ....
                      Win the general or win the primary? I mean win in a primary race against him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tned View Post

                        Isn't he still banned from Twitter?
                        Yep. Don’t know if he’s on GETTR

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post

                          Yep. Don’t know if he’s on GETTR
                          He should be on BroncosBoard, and then he could make Broncos Board Great Again. MaBBGA.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tned View Post

                            Win the general or win the primary? I mean win in a primary race against him.
                            I think if Trump runs then he is the nominee, most good candidates won't run if Trump runs.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by uplink View Post

                              I think if Trump runs then he is the nominee, most good candidates won't run if Trump runs.
                              Certainly none of the more conservative ones. The only ones likely to run are those seen as never trumpers, like a Liz Cheney or others that are either conservative, but a never Trumper or a moderate/centrist, and as McCain/Romney showed, I don't think a centrist can win.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Tned View Post

                                Certainly none of the more conservative ones. The only ones likely to run are those seen as never trumpers, like a Liz Cheney or others that are either conservative, but a never Trumper or a moderate/centrist, and as McCain/Romney showed, I don't think a centrist can win.
                                DeSantis? I mean his middle name is Dion, so that's pretty cool...

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by BroncoJoe View Post

                                  DeSantis? I mean his middle name is Dion, so that's pretty cool...
                                  Yep. Better not be Trump. DeSantis would be my vote.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by BroncoJoe View Post

                                    DeSantis? I mean his middle name is Dion, so that's pretty cool...
                                    Wonder if he would run against Trump in a primary. Would be nice if Trump endorsed someone like DeSantis and did rallies and stuff with him.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by BroncoJoe View Post

                                      DeSantis? I mean his middle name is Dion, so that's pretty cool...
                                      DeSantis can win, no doubt. The Left will try even more of their games to give him the 'Trump treatment'.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Tned View Post

                                        Wonder if he would run against Trump in a primary. Would be nice if Trump endorsed someone like DeSantis and did rallies and stuff with him.
                                        He probably won't run against Trump but may accept the VP spot.

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by Tned View Post

                                          Do you think Kamala is viable, and if Biden is OK (hope he is), do you think he would willingly step aside for another candidate.

                                          I agree, unfortunately, that moderates, especially suburban, along with conservatives/moderates that simply dislike Trump more than Democratic policies, are ripe for the taking.

                                          Off the top of my head, I can't think of a Republican candidate that can beat him in a primary. The ones that have the best shot, are pretty far right, and I'm not sure they would run against him, if he's in the primaries.
                                          You know, I'm not sure- can she appeal overall to Democrats, sure- can she attract female centrist/moderate conservatives, perhaps. I do think there is an appetite for a Female president, so she has that going for her.

                                          I know this won't be the case, but I would like to see a tried and true centrist emerge, i.e. John Kasich. I think the dreams of a hard Right, or Hard progressive America is just a pipe dream at this point. We're not going to achieve ethno-homogenous Christian State any more than we're going to get a Strong Central Planning State. I get the feeling there are a lot of Democrats and Republicans, who aren't on Twitter all day, on Cable News or spending all their time focusing on saying the most outrageous things possible to rile up support.

                                          I have been thinking more and more about the Grand Bargain, and how that was the last, real framework for bipartisanship and compromise. Had that not failed, where would we be today? Can we get back to something like that?

                                          If Trump runs, he wins, not doubt in my mind. Which Democrat can beat him, not sure.

                                          No matter what happens, I think we need another choice or two, from actual viable political parties. It will never happen, but its sorely needed.

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                                          • #22
                                            Originally posted by B-Large View Post

                                            You know, I'm not sure- can she appeal overall to Democrats, sure- can she attract female centrist/moderate conservatives, perhaps. I do think there is an appetite for a Female president, so she has that going for her.

                                            I know this won't be the case, but I would like to see a tried and true centrist emerge, i.e. John Kasich. I think the dreams of a hard Right, or Hard progressive America is just a pipe dream at this point. We're not going to achieve ethno-homogenous Christian State any more than we're going to get a Strong Central Planning State. I get the feeling there are a lot of Democrats and Republicans, who aren't on Twitter all day, on Cable News or spending all their time focusing on saying the most outrageous things possible to rile up support.

                                            I have been thinking more and more about the Grand Bargain, and how that was the last, real framework for bipartisanship and compromise. Had that not failed, where would we be today? Can we get back to something like that?

                                            If Trump runs, he wins, not doubt in my mind. Which Democrat can beat him, not sure.

                                            No matter what happens, I think we need another choice or two, from actual viable political parties. It will never happen, but its sorely needed.
                                            Would LOVE to see a candidate win that is willing, and capable, of trying to bridge the divide. It won't be easy, because both parties have factions that are more times than not, intractable. But, if a President and Speaker/Senate Majority were willing to work together, and work with the more centrist/moderate parts of each side of the aisle, then something like the Grand Bargain might happen.

                                            It's why I don't think the problem is the 60 votes for cloture, but instead the party line votes -- refusal for either side to compromise. I think the majority of Americans, regardless of whether they are liberal or conservative, would support Congress reaching compromises that require conservatives to give up some of what they believe, in return for getting some, and the same for liberals.

                                            Just not sure that a candidate like that on either side can survive the primary, even if they were capable of winning the election.

                                            I detest Trump as a person, I've said that many times on the other forum, but I truly believe if the Dems hadn't attacked him from day one (actually before), he would have been just as willing to make deals with them, as with Republicans, because all he cares about is winning, and patting himself on the back (those Covid pressers where VP and all the speakers constantly praised POTUS were irritating as hell -- if he needs his dick sucked, do it in private). Now, even if re-elected, that ship has sailed.

                                            But, as much as I doubt it will happen while I'm still alive (and hopefully I have a half century left -- well, maybe not quite that much), I really hope some day I see Congress becoming a functioning body that is willing to compromise on legislation that benefits the country overall, left and right, rather than only trying to pass legislation that supports their side of the country (and often supported mostly by the fringes more than the majority of their party/side of the) and simply works to block anything from the other side.

                                            One can dream...

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                                            • #23
                                              Names like DeSantis, Noem, and Haley make a lot of sense. As far as the electorate goes, it might be wise for the GOP to have Noem or Haley on any ticket (even if it's VP capacity) to help with the women vote. If they can siphon a decent portion of them away from the Democrats—they'd have a really good shot at the White House, IMO.

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by Tned View Post

                                                Would LOVE to see a candidate win that is willing, and capable, of trying to bridge the divide. It won't be easy, because both parties have factions that are more times than not, intractable. But, if a President and Speaker/Senate Majority were willing to work together, and work with the more centrist/moderate parts of each side of the aisle, then something like the Grand Bargain might happen.

                                                It's why I don't think the problem is the 60 votes for cloture, but instead the party line votes -- refusal for either side to compromise. I think the majority of Americans, regardless of whether they are liberal or conservative, would support Congress reaching compromises that require conservatives to give up some of what they believe, in return for getting some, and the same for liberals.

                                                Just not sure that a candidate like that on either side can survive the primary, even if they were capable of winning the election.

                                                I detest Trump as a person, I've said that many times on the other forum, but I truly believe if the Dems hadn't attacked him from day one (actually before), he would have been just as willing to make deals with them, as with Republicans, because all he cares about is winning, and patting himself on the back (those Covid pressers where VP and all the speakers constantly praised POTUS were irritating as hell -- if he needs his dick sucked, do it in private). Now, even if re-elected, that ship has sailed.

                                                But, as much as I doubt it will happen while I'm still alive (and hopefully I have a half century left -- well, maybe not quite that much), I really hope some day I see Congress becoming a functioning body that is willing to compromise on legislation that benefits the country overall, left and right, rather than only trying to pass legislation that supports their side of the country (and often supported mostly by the fringes more than the majority of their party/side of the) and simply works to block anything from the other side.

                                                One can dream...
                                                good post. I was watching a documentary yesterday with Steve Schmidt- he contends the politics of the 50, 60 and 70's that aimed to find a compromise between the Left and Right, Democrat and Republican are over. The divide now is essentially the 60-70 percent that have fallen behind and feel completely forgotten, and the finer upper segment of globalists and elites that run power, and accumulate the spoils of economic success. I guess the rest just lay in between some where, not feeling downtrodden but sure not mega wealthy/ influential.

                                                Got me thinking about what exactly are the policy/ political goals of the 60-70 percent, and how do they achieve them? How do Americans stand up to the mega wealthy? How do Americans confront Globalists? Can we ever strip money/ power/ influence form the gears of American government? Could we seriously consider Sortition for some elected positions? I really don't know.


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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by B-Large View Post

                                                  good post. I was watching a documentary yesterday with Steve Schmidt- he contends the politics of the 50, 60 and 70's that aimed to find a compromise between the Left and Right, Democrat and Republican are over. The divide now is essentially the 60-70 percent that have fallen behind and feel completely forgotten, and the finer upper segment of globalists and elites that run power, and accumulate the spoils of economic success. I guess the rest just lay in between some where, not feeling downtrodden but sure not mega wealthy/ influential.

                                                  Got me thinking about what exactly are the policy/ political goals of the 60-70 percent, and how do they achieve them?
                                                  Other than your avatar (which creeps me out), I'm warming up to you.

                                                  #nohomo
                                                  #notthatthereanythingwrongwiththat

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