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Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post
I here a lot of too expensive, can’t happen, don’t like him, etc.
What I’m not seeing from people is proposed alternatives. If you don’t like something, what’s your solution?
OC coach candidates will be asked to answer this question. I’ll bet Paton won’t let them off with the ‘Fangio’ answer of just give me a superstar QB.
because there is no "answer." Just a buttload of questions.
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Originally posted by TEKO View Post
That's because there aren't any good alternatives. I don't think it's a stretch to say we're in a really bad spot. I'd much rather roll the dice with Lock, ride or die, and then look at the draft next year. Maybe move up for a Pickett this year, but I'm not sold he's the answer either.
because there is no "answer." Just a buttload of questions.
And, we own the #9 pick with lots of draft capital. Developing our own QB is a great idea.
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Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post
I think what you have here is good. Lock is a QB that can start, has shown improvement and can start. A good coach should help out tremendously!
And, we own the #9 pick with lots of draft capital. Developing our own QB is a great idea.
At least then we know what we've got.
Rodgers or Wilson aren't coming here. They were never coming here. Time to move on from that particular fantasy IMO.
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Originally posted by The1percentKid View PostLots of people saying he’s the garbage and the same as Teddy/Lock? Lmao.
what if Denver’s QB put up 33 TDs 7 ints. Over 4K. This year. Playoffs then? Yep.
Teddy and Lock couldn’t sniff 30 TDs. Cousins isn’t the greatest out there or even top tier but he’s far better than anything Denver’s had since 2014 Manning. Some weird hate for Cousins on this board for a long time. Same people who say broncos roster is full of talent rip cousins who’s been on a team with trash and bad coaching. It’s why they fired their GM and HC. Bad drafts bad FA….
id take 33 TDs 7 ints in a heartbeat. That’s multiple more wins this year, considering how many were lost by single score. The “tough losses” here are blamed on Fangio just as much as QB, but Zimmer gets a pass? That dude trash.
this fanbase needs a wake up call. Rodgers and Wilson isn’t happening. Neither is Watson. 9th pick is too late for a rookie QB since several teams taking one before them in a weak draft. The FA this year is horrible. Teddy is ranked the best FA QB. Paton has to hit the Cousins/Ryan/Jimmy shelf or it’s Teddy and Lock in 2022.
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Originally posted by Tangerine View Post
Putting this into perspective, 33 TDs is 13 more than our QBs threw, that’s 91 points or 5.3 additional points per game. If 5 points were added to each game, the Broncos win 4 more games and tie the Chiefs for the best record in the division.
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Originally posted by Samiwindr View PostHard no - we’ll be hard pressed to find 10 wins on our division and can’t afford a QB who could potentially miss a game over Covid. Availability is too important to accommodate these anti-vac tools.
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Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
It's pretty funny you think vaccine status is going to amount to anything next season. It's essentially useless against the new variant. Wasn't much better on Delta.
Currently and can change at any time. Vaccinated players can test positive and play that week. Unvac players that test positive have to wait 10 days.
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Originally posted by ceh View Post
Its not about catching it. Its about how long you have to stay on Reserve list.
Currently and can change at any time. Vaccinated players can test positive and play that week. Unvac players that test positive have to wait 10 days.
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Originally posted by The1percentKid View PostLots of people saying he’s the garbage and the same as Teddy/Lock? Lmao.
what if Denver’s QB put up 33 TDs 7 ints. Over 4K. This year. Playoffs then? Yep.
Teddy and Lock couldn’t sniff 30 TDs. Cousins isn’t the greatest out there or even top tier but he’s far better than anything Denver’s had since 2014 Manning. Some weird hate for Cousins on this board for a long time. Same people who say broncos roster is full of talent rip cousins who’s been on a team with trash and bad coaching. It’s why they fired their GM and HC. Bad drafts bad FA….
id take 33 TDs 7 ints in a heartbeat. That’s multiple more wins this year, considering how many were lost by single score. The “tough losses” here are blamed on Fangio just as much as QB, but Zimmer gets a pass? That dude trash.
this fanbase needs a wake up call. Rodgers and Wilson isn’t happening. Neither is Watson. 9th pick is too late for a rookie QB since several teams taking one before them in a weak draft. The FA this year is horrible. Teddy is ranked the best FA QB. Paton has to hit the Cousins/Ryan/Jimmy shelf or it’s Teddy and Lock in 2022.
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Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
It's pretty funny you think vaccine status is going to amount to anything next season. It's essentially useless against the new variant. Wasn't much better on Delta.
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Originally posted by go_broncos View PostWe are in AFC WEST... Cousins type of QB won't work here.. he is unable to defeat Rodgers.
Here, we are having 3 QB's .. BIG NO.. Draft a QB , Develop him or get Rodgers or Wilson.
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Originally posted by Drunk Monkey View Post
You know Patton is going to go hard for both of them. There is a reason we are interviewing GB's offensive coordinator for our HC position. The chance of landing either is pretty small though. You better get a plan B ready.
Hopefully, we can atleast get Wilson. Wilson with our offensive weapons will be deadly.
If both are not available, try to get the QB in first round.
if you couldn't get the QB you like, then get Cousins or Garoppolo. Price will be huge(might have to surrender 1st round or multiple picks). with this option, you are pretty much out of playoffs(unless some lucky bounces)
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It is going to be funny if the 49ers win the super bowl with Garopolo after spending 3 1sts for Trey Lance .
Just who do they keep.....? Do you trade away a super bowl winner QB? You can't keep them both for another year?
And do you get 3 1sts back for Lance without him showing much of anything...I think not.. unless it is THIS year with a poor QB group in the draft.
If 49ers win it all, Lance may be the traded player.
As far as Rodgers goes.....He has to win or at least get to the super bowl this year...put up or shut up time. Home field advantage, and if he doesn't get
there this year, then what? He isn't getting younger and the super bowl is the goal. His contract gets huge next year. Maybe GB will trade him if he loses,
but if he wins it, he isn't going anywhere soon. And if he doesn't his value goes down, and he still has the ability to say no to any trade.
Wilson isn't moving anywhere yet. I think he stays in Seattle. Watson in Houston stays there for now. He needs to get back in football .
Cousins might make the Broncos a better team, but he likely isn't a guy that can go all the way. I don't think any of the college QBs this year are worth trading UP for.
Likely Lock stays for the next year unless something odd happens. Placeholder for 23.
As far as coaches....I don't think any defensive minded coach is going to be one that will help the team get better on O.. We need an offensive coach that can develope whoever the QB is we end up with. Broncos are starting a real rebuild.
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Originally posted by Samiwindr View Post
You're absolutely right - it should be endemic by the time next season rolls around - should have put more thought into my post before firing it out. That said, I'd still be a hard no for the fact that he could have cost his team a playoff spot this year. There is no I in team. And yes, I feel the same way about Rodgers.
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Originally posted by Scottxray View Post
As far as coaches....I don't think any defensive minded coach is going to be one that will help the team get better on O.. We need an offensive coach that can develope whoever the QB is we end up with. Broncos are starting a real rebuild.
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Originally posted by Scottxray View PostIt is going to be funny if the 49ers win the super bowl with Garopolo after spending 3 1sts for Trey Lance .
Just who do they keep.....? Do you trade away a super bowl winner QB? You can't keep them both for another year?
And do you get 3 1sts back for Lance without him showing much of anything...I think not.. unless it is THIS year with a poor QB group in the draft.
If 49ers win it all, Lance may be the traded player.
As far as Rodgers goes.....He has to win or at least get to the super bowl this year...put up or shut up time. Home field advantage, and if he doesn't get
there this year, then what? He isn't getting younger and the super bowl is the goal. His contract gets huge next year. Maybe GB will trade him if he loses,
but if he wins it, he isn't going anywhere soon. And if he doesn't his value goes down, and he still has the ability to say no to any trade.
Wilson isn't moving anywhere yet. I think he stays in Seattle. Watson in Houston stays there for now. He needs to get back in football .
Cousins might make the Broncos a better team, but he likely isn't a guy that can go all the way. I don't think any of the college QBs this year are worth trading UP for.
Likely Lock stays for the next year unless something odd happens. Placeholder for 23.
As far as coaches....I don't think any defensive minded coach is going to be one that will help the team get better on O.. We need an offensive coach that can develope whoever the QB is we end up with. Broncos are starting a real rebuild.
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Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
Yeah, I have zero interest. Rodgers, you'd be crazy not to leap at the chance, even if he's getting massaged by all of Deshaun's unvaccinated 'therapists' all at once.
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Originally posted by go_broncos View Post
Agree... That's the reason we should not go after Quinn.
Andy Reid, McVay, LaFleur, Taylor etc have offense covered and replace DC. BTW, we had LaFkeur and Taylor in for HC/OC type interviews I believe and didn’t have the chestnuts to go w younger offensive mind. We blew it. Do t want to do that again.
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Originally posted by Samiwindr View Post
Rodgers is a 3-4 year rental ala Peyton. We'd probably get another Lombardi out of it, but we'll be right back in QB hell again. I'd rather have another great draft this year and save up more draft capital for a blockbuster move up next year than spend 3 first rounders on Rodgers.
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