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    CDC chief: 75% of COVID deaths in people already seriously ill

    CDC Director Rochelle Walensky acknowledged Monday the premise on which advocates of a pandemic response of "focused-protection" rather than universal restrictions have relied -- that the vast majority of deaths from COVID-19 are among people who already were seriously ill.

    "The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities," she said Friday in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America.
    CDC Director Rochelle Walensky acknowledged Monday the premise on which advocates of a pandemic response of "focused-protection" rather than universal restrictions have relied -- that the vast majority of deaths from COVID-19 are among people who already were seriously ill.

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    WND (originally an initialism for WorldNetDaily, or as it was affectionately known to its fans as WingNutDaily[1][2] or WhirledNutDaily[3]) is a far-right website founded by the impressively mustachioed Joseph Farah in 1997 as a project of his "Western Center for Journalism".[4][5] The site espouses a fundamentalist, Christian, creationist worldviewwith a healthy dose of jingoism, and its coverage provides multiple sides of issues: the very conservative viewpoint and the ultra-conservative viewpoint. Basically, it makes Fox News look positively moonbatty in comparison. Managing editor David Kupelian claims:[6]
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    • #3
      Attack the source. Look at the article. CDC info from ABC.

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        Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post
        Attack the source. Look at the article. CDC info from ABC.
        WND put words in her mouth. Based on the quotes, she didn't say seriously ill.

        Also, it's shameful that conservatives have been acting like this is news. They've been saying this since last year. Hence the reason right after elderly and first responders/medical, they made people with comorbidities eligible for the vaccine.

        Way to treat last years news as breaking news.

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          Originally posted by Tned View Post

          WND put words in her mouth. Based on the quotes, she didn't say seriously ill.

          Also, it's shameful that conservatives have been acting like this is news. They've been saying this since last year. Hence the reason right after elderly and first responders/medical, they made people with comorbidities eligible for the vaccine.

          Way to treat last years news as breaking news.
          I didn’t know they had said that. It does reflect what I know from medical contacts which is most people aren’t dying from Covid, it’s people already at risk. That’s not good, but that’s a different story then I see being sold in order to push mandates.

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            Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

            I didn’t know they had said that. It does reflect what I know from medical contacts which is most people aren’t dying from Covid, it’s people already at risk. That’s not good, but that’s a different story then I see being sold in order to push mandates.
            Starting all the way back with the first big outbreak in northern Italy, and the data collected out of that, showed that it was mostly overweight people, often with smoking, hypertension, etc.

            You might recall maybe last summer or so of last year the HUGE uproar, including Trump helping torpedo his Presidential reelection bid, when CDC data came out and showed only 6% (going by memory, but I believe this is the number) of dead ONLY had Covid listed, and that was twisted by my side (and your side, conservatives) to say that CDC was cooking the books and 94% of the claimed Covid deaths died WITH Covid vs. because of Covid.

            That ring a bell?

            Point is it's been in the data and reporting all along, which is the vast majority of patients that have severe disease, and of course die, have multiple comorbidities, which is why they were pushed towards the front of the line for vaccines.

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              Originally posted by Tned View Post

              Starting all the way back with the first big outbreak in northern Italy, and the data collected out of that, showed that it was mostly overweight people, often with smoking, hypertension, etc.

              You might recall maybe last summer or so of last year the HUGE uproar, including Trump helping torpedo his Presidential reelection bid, when CDC data came out and showed only 6% (going by memory, but I believe this is the number) of dead ONLY had Covid listed, and that was twisted by my side (and your side, conservatives) to say that CDC was cooking the books and 94% of the claimed Covid deaths died WITH Covid vs. because of Covid.

              That ring a bell?

              Point is it's been in the data and reporting all along, which is the vast majority of patients that have severe disease, and of course die, have multiple comorbidities, which is why they were pushed towards the front of the line for vaccines.
              So, why the mandate push? If we are talking about an ‘at risk’ segment, then the world is out of control.

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                Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                So, why the mandate push? If we are talking about an ‘at risk’ segment, then the world is out of control.
                Because a shit load of Americans are overweight and have other health issues, such as current or former smokers, etc.

                Hence the reason so many people have died the last 18 months.

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                  Originally posted by Tned View Post

                  Because a shit load of Americans are overweight and have other health issues, such as current or former smokers, etc.

                  Hence the reason so many people have died the last 18 months.
                  Okay, but that speaks against a general mandate. This sounds like a decision by Physician and patient like the flu or another ailment taking into consideration the specific situation.

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                        See how quickly and easily misinformation is spread by right wing propagandists? This blatant lie is being spread far and wide, and it will continue even though the lie has been exposed. But you know what happens when lies are repeated often enough...

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                          Deaths with covid

                          Not from covid

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                            Originally posted by Mozzafiato View Post
                            See how quickly and easily misinformation is spread by right wing propagandists? This blatant lie is being spread far and wide, and it will continue even though the lie has been exposed. But you know what happens when lies are repeated often enough...
                            I was told by a lefty 100k children are on ventilators

                            can you go on Twitter and confirm please

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                              Case in point:

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                                I don’t even care about the CDC. It’s a left source. Looks like damage control.

                                I know many healthcare professionals that are on the front line. This is exactly what they have told me for 2 years.

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                                    Originally posted by Agent Zero View Post

                                    I was told by a lefty 100k children are on ventilators

                                    can you go on Twitter and confirm please
                                    Shame on that Justice

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                                      Originally posted by Mozzafiato View Post
                                      Damage control.

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                                        Dr. Atlas dropped a couple of truth bombs during the segment. First of all, there were no children hospitalized because of COVID during the early studies. The children were hospitalized “with” COVID and not “from” COVID.

                                        Then Dr. Atlas dropped this bomb. Nearly two-thirds of COVID deaths were individuals with at least SIX comorbidities!
                                        Dr. Scott Atlas joined Tucker Carlson on Monday night to discuss the lies and omissions from the medical bureaucrats running the country’s COVID policy. And what a complete disaster it’s been! Dr. Atlas dropped a couple of truth bombs during the segment. First of all, there were no children hospitalized because of COVID during the…

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                                          Damage control.
                                          The only one doing damage control here is you. You've been caught clinging to a lie.

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                                            The majority of people hospitalized with COVID-19 in New Jersey were actually admitted for reasons other than COVID-19, ...

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by Mozzafiato View Post

                                              The only one doing damage control here is you. You've been caught clinging to a lie.
                                              Projection rejection

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                                                so we all knew the deaths were being exaggerated in 2020 to help win the election. CNN even put up a ticker on air.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by uplink View Post
                                                  so we all knew the deaths were being exaggerated in 2020 to help win the election. CNN even put up a ticker on air.
                                                  Yep. Truth comes out.

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