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  • Drew’s best game? Jenkins eval

    Tim Jenkins in depth

  • #2
    Lock is a decent QB, the Lions wanted to trade for him to be their starter. Broncos should just play him and let him develop.

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    • #3
      Lock sucks.. Street FA play(without any reps) play better than him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by uplink View Post
        Lock is a decent QB, the Lions wanted to trade for him to be their starter. Broncos should just play him and let him develop.
        Jenkins shows in this one that Shurmur does not help with the proper WR spacing. It destroys concepts and makes things difficult on any QB. Fangio’s move to Shurmur was disastrous.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by go_broncos View Post
          Lock sucks.. Street FA play(without any reps) play better than him.
          Not according to Jenkins.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tangerine View Post
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              I agree that system is suspect. I like the eye test and watching the games. I did think Drew had a good game. What I think gets missed is that the offense only had 3 possessions second half. Fangio always concedes the run and the other team can just control the game and drain the clock. It’s the football equivalent of basketball 4 corners. It helps him achieve his ultimate goal which is to keep points low, but we end up losing lots of low scoring games.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                I agree that system is suspect. I like the eye test and watching the games. I did think Drew had a good game. What I think gets missed is that the offense only had 3 possessions second half. Fangio always concedes the run and the other team can just control the game and drain the clock. It’s the football equivalent of basketball 4 corners. It helps him achieve his ultimate goal which is to keep points low, but we end up losing lots of low scoring games.
                Fangio doesn't "concede the run". Having a bad D-line and losing your best run stopping LB's to injury concedes the run. The strength of the Broncos D is its DB's. Need to get better in the front seven.

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                • #9
                  i appreciate the good/bad and hardly PFF top 3

                  also never saw drew look one way and come back the other any game this year.

                  this is why he’d probably be good in year 2 in a kyle system that relies on a running game and single half field reads high to low in the move

                  success breeds improvement and confidence. denver had the running game.

                  that type of offense with Lock running it would surely score 23 ppg which at a +6 point difference between ppg and pa would be playoff caliber

                  i’d keep Lock around next year unless he’s has to be part of a trade

                  just don’t understand why Vic does not like that type of offense when Lock at this point in his career is probably best at.

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                  • #10
                    We need a nasty LB on defense. We're still working through the curse of letting Danny T go to Chicago.

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                    • #11
                      He played his best game from a standpoint of decisions making. But you would want him to pair good decision making with production. With that being said, progres is progress.

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                      • Atwater27
                        Atwater27 commented
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                        That's some Morpheus level wisdom right thar

                    • #12
                      Originally posted by ceh View Post
                      i appreciate the good/bad and hardly PFF top 3

                      also never saw drew look one way and come back the other any game this year.

                      this is why he’d probably be good in year 2 in a kyle system that relies on a running game and single half field reads high to low in the move

                      success breeds improvement and confidence. denver had the running game.

                      that type of offense with Lock running it would surely score 23 ppg which at a +6 point difference between ppg and pa would be playoff caliber

                      i’d keep Lock around next year unless he’s has to be part of a trade

                      just don’t understand why Vic does not like that type of offense when Lock at this point in his career is probably best at.
                      Very astute observations. Vic moving to Shurmur was a disaster.

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Don Stylismo View Post
                        He played his best game from a standpoint of decisions making. But you would want him to pair good decision making with production. With that being said, progres is progress.
                        I agree. I think there are several issues. The top one is why did we struggle so bad with the run game? I’ve been hearing it’s stunts the Raiders ran. Okay, no adjustment the whole game? If we have any kind of run game, or can stop the Raiders run game we win. That’s all coaching staff.

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                          I agree. I think there are several issues. The top one is why did we struggle so bad with the run game? I’ve been hearing it’s stunts the Raiders ran. Okay, no adjustment the whole game? If we have any kind of run game, or can stop the Raiders run game we win. That’s all coaching staff.
                          Because the Broncos OL are a bunch of JAGs who cannot block when overpowered by a DL.

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                          • #15
                            whats funny teddy 2 floater is banned but the TD pass Lock threw to Patrick was a floater and under thrown. great play by TPat

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                            • #16
                              Originally posted by ceh View Post
                              whats funny teddy 2 floater is banned but the TD pass Lock threw to Patrick was a floater and under thrown. great play by TPat
                              Didn’t look like a floater in real time. Looked like he was throwing it up to a guy he knew would win in a jump ball situation considering the size difference. Also, those 3 drops were combined for roughly 50 yards. Those drives get extended who knows what happens. Lock clearly has a better arm. His mobility is pretty even with Teddy’s. Only thing Teddy really has on Lock is he doesn’t turn it over as much. With consistent reps there’s no reason to believe with good coaching that’s not something that can be cleaned up.

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                              • #17
                                Originally posted by Tangerine View Post
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                                Do you think when Bill Belichick covers film with Mac Jones, 30 seconds in he says "Your offense didn't score as many points as Tom Brady's this week. Git Gud!"

                                Or does he go through each play, what opportunities it offered, and what decisions Mac made and how he delivered on those decisions?

                                Do you have any suggestions on which plays Drew was presented that might've made it possible for him to throw for 450 yards? If so, I'd love to see them.

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                                • #18
                                  Crazy how everyone's probably blaming Drew for that throw that was behind Fant but it turns out it was mostly on Fant.

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                                  • #19
                                    No turnovers was a big move in the right direction. His throws still looked off to me. No doubt he needs a fresh start somewhere else.

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                                    • #20
                                      Jenkins is just like the rest of you Lock morons. He want's to be right.

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                                      • #21
                                        Drew Lock's best game was against the Carolina Panthers in 2020 when he beat Teddy Bridgewater straight up.

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                                        • #22
                                          Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
                                          Crazy how everyone's probably blaming Drew for that throw that was behind Fant but it turns out it was mostly on Fant.
                                          Yep, and reps between them both. This is a huge wasted year on Lock’s development or eval however it would turn out.

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                                          • #23
                                            If we get Rogers, Wilson or Watson we move on from Lock, or he backs up. Otherwise, an upgrade is less clear.

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                                            • #24
                                              Originally posted by Yerner_ View Post
                                              Jenkins is just like the rest of you Lock morons. He want's to be right.
                                              He knows more about football than you or I ever will.

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                                              • #25
                                                One thing that really struck me during his newest video was going back to what's been said about the Manning/Moore offense. The concepts were really pretty simple. They just narrowed them down to the point where receivers were absolutely 100% on point 100% of the time.

                                                There's not (always) necessarily anything wrong with Shumu's scheme. But most the times where it seems coherent, the execution is off. Is it too complex? Just poorly coached? Hard to say. But it definitely seems like Shurgio need to do more than just cut out music to make better use of practice time.

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