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But but but but ... what happened to "$5 billion and probably much much more" ??

Ah, forget it! It is pretty funny though, how you post this link and call me in here to show off ... you're so proud! But I gotta ask ... exactly how long you gonna be comfortable and proud being ranked six spots below us?

Ah, don't worry about it! At this very moment, Wal-Mart is designing and building MAD updates to Empower Field and other Broncos facilities. 3rd largest video screen behind Dallas and SoFi in LA.

So don't worry, we'll zoom right back up into the Top 10 next year!





Remember to shop at WalMart!

Below is a link to Rocket 7's pics of some of the improvements being done ... notice the huge panel with our three Super Bowl winning logos on it .........

HEY! Now that you guys (finally) caught up to us six months ago, and you have three Super Bowls too, maybe you should assemble a similar panel for Narrowhead!

But I have some important advice for you and your panel: Somehow get hold of "special film services" at Warner Brothers in Burbank, California. They're the best in the business at "colorizing" old movies ... they might be able to colorize that antique black&white logo from your first super bowl!

LINK!

Tell me all about the “great” QB’s on each of the top 5 valued teams.

I never said it was the be all end all....but in a comparison of KC to Denver....It seems to be a major factor in this most recent evaluation.

According to Forbes the largest factor in team valuation (well over half for most teams) is the shared revenue, followed by market, then stadium, then “brand”. In 2022 Denver’s numbers were $3.195+$0.692+$0.469+$0.294=$4.65. KC’s were $2.700+$0.441+$0.387+$0.173=$3.70. The 2023 details don’t seem to be available yet but I’d be curious to see them to compare.

...just curious....if KC went on sale today...what do you suppose the winning bid would be?

Virginia Halas’s dad bought the Bears for $100. Now they are worth $6B.

I can only guess here, but probably $4.5B-$4.75B neighborhood. Chiefs are limited by their market, and I don’t know much about their stadium situation. And really the team’s value doesn’t matter all that much. It’s more about ownership and growth in revenues and value.

.....I think you get 5 because you are getting a team in a strong title window becasue of the QB.

...even at your figure of 4.75 (consistantly/close to the article) KC closed the gap on what Denvers value is....and Denver has a recent sale, which of course is a true indicator of what htey are actually valued at....because someone paid it.

As the market in KC didn't get subtstantially better, the stadium is old, while Denver is growing a faster pace and already is a bigger city than KC...I have to think that Mahomes is/Lomardi potential is why KC is closing the gap.

Agree, they are definitely factors. Just not huge ones. For example, Chiefs were selling out before Mahomes. And revenue sharing smoothes out the positive effects teams get from being contenders.

LOL. KC wins a Superbowl and Denver has one of their worst seasons ever, firing their Head Coach...but the Broncos are still worth more. That's hilarious. You're a dumbass.

All determined by market size baby

It's just funny to me that a Chiefs fan came over here to start this thread on a Bronco board. The guy seems obsessed.

He has gone full cringe. He’s like the unpopular kid who just tries TOO hard. No one laughs at his jokes. Everyone is embarrassed FOR him.

Imagine feeling so small you dig this up and post it here.

Wrong again!

Gotta remind everybody that this topic is re-surfacing because I called out ZeroTroll's LIE that chefs owner Clark Hunt said chefs were worth "Five billion and maybe much more." He posted that lie on this Broncos board shortly after the Broncos sold for $4.65 B, in an obvious effort to "one up" our team.

And now, in the above-quoted post, he's pushing this same "5 billion" nonsense yet again. So it's time again, for another chef-troll beat-down:

Zero ... Your latest $5 billion fib is actually $500 million dollars more than the very site you quoted to start this thread!

That site is Sportico, which might be a decent sports site, but reporting on billion dollar issues is better handled by Forbes. They've been reporting franchise valuations for 20+ years. Their latest valuations are not nearly as kind:
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Awwwww!

chefs just 3-point-7 billion? That's less than 5, isn't it? And 23rd in the League ... OUCH!

But look closer... the second image above - the "by lines" image - look close: August 22, 2022. That's the date the story was published. And that means Forbes new 2023 NFL team valuations are probably gonna drop in a week or two! I suggest you open their homepage and start refreshing every few seconds like a madman, until you can come back here and announce, like you did in the first post above:

"BroncoBuff! Look BroncoBuff! Now we're just $1.1 billion dollars less valuable than you!"

I can't wait.


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In my next post, below, I'll explain how pro sports franchise values are calculated, and how Zero's dishonest justifications for his false claims were hatched.

1) No, that's not "my figure." For my figure I'm going with Forbes current valuation of the chefs at $3.7 b.

2) No, that's not how you "closed the gap." So, you ask, "then how DID the chefs 'close the gap' BroncoBuff, huh? How DID we?!"
Well, The Forbes article explained (link) the main reason how EVERY franchise value got bumped up an average of 24% this year. The main reason is ......


is ...


is ...


wait for it ...


The just-completed sale of the Denver Broncos for $4.65 billion!!

"You're welcome!" - The Denver Broncos.



Really? Denver is "already a bigger city than KC"??

Newsflash: Denver is a MUCH "bigger" city than KC. It's bigger now, and has been bigger since before either town had a football team. Denver is the 17th largest TV market in the country, Kansas City is 33rd (I think the only NFL markets smaller than KC are Green Bay and Buffalo. Maybe Jacksonville). And TV market is the relevant measure, because pre-season game TV telecasts, coach's TV shows, and (I think) radio broadcasts all generate franchise profits, as opposed to other incomes that are subject to NFL revenue sharing.

You're half-right when you mentioned 'stadiums,' but it doesn't really matter how old a stadium is, what matters is how much premium seating (sky boxes) it has, it's parking, concessions, restaurants and any other attractions and revenue generators a stadium has.

As the Forbes article explains, franchise values are based on a multiplier of revenue generators, and those values started to skyrocket when the Tepper family bought the Carolina Panthers.

Here's how a franchise is valued:
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Kinda boring, huh? To be honest, even me - and I am NOT a chefs fan - but even in the back of my mind I thought, "really? They go to all these super bowls and that doesn't matter?" But no, franchise on-field successes ebb and flow - (e.g. a decade ago, who would think today's AFC power rankings: KC, Cincinnati, Buffalo?). Nope. Look at Washington and Chicago ... Top 5 or so in value, but neither one won a playoff game in this century.

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Will the family of evil oil tycoon Haraldson Lafayette Hunt sell the team to the Saudis, perpetrators of the crime of the century, for 8 billion dollars? 🤔

The AFC’s final four are ranked 23 (chiefs), 28 (jags), 30 (bills) and 32 (bengals)

So much for having great QBs and title contenders.

I'm thinking these new 2023 Forbes rankings will finally put an end to Zero's embarrassing, Quixotic crusade to cure his fibbing that chefs were worth "Five billion dollars and probably much more."

In case you didn't notice, Zero, the Broncos new valuation is HALF A BILLION DOLLARS HIGHER than last year!

And remember, Forbes credited last year's strikingly huge jump in all franchise values to the sale price of the Broncos, and not to QBs. I haven't read this year's article yet, but I'm confident that our half-a-billion increase, along with whatever increases might have occurred among the lower tiers of teams will be credited to the Washington Commander's sale price this year.



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Wow.... paraphrasing your post Ark, to point out some fascinating facts:

The least valuable AFC franchises include the #1 #2 and #3 best, highest ranked on-field teams - KC Buff Cincy.

And all four of them plus Green Bay = NFL's FIVE SMALLEST TV MARKETS!

I stand by my statement. If KC went on the market today, they'd get 5 billion. Both the Broncos and Washington sales were in teh neighborhood of 20% over the prior years Forbes valuation.

Of course you do. Obviously you're unfamiliar with the truism, the phrase, (not to mention the personal philosophy):

. . "Accountability breeds trust."

If you can't be accountable for a silly lie like this one you told on an anonymous website, then I shudder to think what a vapid void of character you must be in person.
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