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    Denver didn’t want Peyton Manning back after SB50?



    Interview with Michael Porter jr of the Nuggets. Right around 5:48 he talks about winning Super Bowl 50 and alludes that the Broncos were already moving on from him. “They had their QB issues to sort through” aka they were ready replace him with Osweiler (or Siemian/draft pick) and Peyton didn’t want to play for a third team.
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    • #2
      Manning was a fried egg after that season.

      he was done.

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        • #3
          I made a post on the Mane that offseason, arguing in my typical concise, surgically-precise manner (you know, without too many words) about why it made sense to try and bring him back. I was mocked and ridiculed - basically told the world would be a better place if I was dead, and that I was ugly. I argued that most people had never actually seen me, so there was really no way they could know if I was ugly. The response was, "Yeah, but that doesn't even matter - you're for sure ugly. Go hump a goat."

          But anyway - yeah, I argued it. Fat lot of good that did us.
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            • #4
              Peyton went out on top as he should have.
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                • #5
                  he said 'possibly' moving on from him and it sounds like he didn't know what they thought about him playing another year in the video.

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                    • #6
                      Yup - this was pretty obvious IMO at the time. Peyton was pretty cooked, and the Broncos wanted to see what they had in Osweiler. Didn't love the move, but I understood why they did it. I think he would've come back for another year if the Broncos would've wanted him to. That's just the kind of competitor he is.

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                        • #7
                          There was this cliff that year ...and Manning fell off it. One of the most pronounced drop-offs for a QB in recent memory imo.

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                            • BroncoBuff
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                              BroncoBuff commented
                              08-09-2023, 05:54 PM
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                              He couldn't get his "medicine."
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                              It was obvious they wanted to move on which is exactly why they haven’t been a winning team since.

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                                • #9
                                  He had nothing left.

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                                    • #10
                                      Originally posted by 69bronco
                                      It was obvious they wanted to move on which is exactly why they haven’t been a winning team since.
                                      You think everyone sucks but deny how washed 2015 Peyton was lmao
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                                        • bowtown
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                                          bowtown commented
                                          08-08-2023, 07:25 AM
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                                          He's only a Peyton fan. He's not a Bronco fan. He came over when Peyton did and has been critical of literally every single other aspect of the team since. It's a pretty old schtick.
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                                          Originally posted by Aztec Bronco
                                          You think everyone sucks but deny how washed 2015 Peyton was lmao
                                          That Super Bowl was fuuuuugly on offense. They did almost nothing that Von and the D didn’t give them.

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                                            • #12
                                              He got hurt in 2015, couldn't use his legs that well when throwing. He could have healed up and played better in 2016, the guy is one of the best players to ever play the game. Should have given him a shot to come back, it was a massive mistake by the broncos. I think Elway thought he could do it all with defense.

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                                                • #13
                                                  Peyton was actually cooked pre-season 2015 because the League, which already hadn't allowed his "medicine" for a few years, started testing for it.

                                                  But his decision was already made .... remember after the AFCCG he told Belichick "looks like this is my last rodeo."

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                                                    • #14
                                                      Originally posted by Aztec Bronco
                                                      You think everyone sucks but deny how washed 2015 Peyton was lmao
                                                      That guy claimed he stopped watching football after the kneeling during the National Anthem.
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                                                        • #15
                                                          Originally posted by Mile High Salute
                                                          Yup - this was pretty obvious IMO at the time. Peyton was pretty cooked, and the Broncos wanted to see what they had in Osweiler. Didn't love the move, but I understood why they did it. I think he would've come back for another year if the Broncos would've wanted him to. That's just the kind of competitor he is.
                                                          You would think due diligence would've actually required having Brosweiler under contract for at least one more season.

                                                          But I guess that's kinda who we were at the time.

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                                                              Which got me to thinking back... I don't really remember. Why did we not tag Broz with all of that on the line?

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                                                                • Old Coyote
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                                                                  Old Coyote commented
                                                                  08-08-2023, 10:26 AM
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                                                                  Because we knew he was Brock Ozweiler
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                                                                  Originally posted by Old Coyote
                                                                  Because we knew he was Brock Ozweiler
                                                                  We were going to give him like a 4 or 5 year deal or something like that IIRC. Usually though if you're counting on a guy that much for the next season you'd tag him just for leverage.

                                                                  But maybe we had some other critical need for the tag. I don't remember.

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                                                                      But we knew he wasn't worth the tag. Lol..
                                                                      He'd get lost.
                                                                      Siemian was better because of that.

                                                                      He had nothing worth the tag. And we knew it. Elway was courting QBs and got cut off by Worm-tongue. And Kubiak said He believed in Munkeyspunk Spunk.

                                                                      So we fell from glory. And after 7 seasons of what should be top picks... here we are with a Hobbit carrying our ring hopes. 🤦🏽‍♂️

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                                                                        • #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Old Coyote
                                                                          But we knew he wasn't worth the tag. Lol..
                                                                          He'd get lost.
                                                                          Siemian was better because of that.

                                                                          He had nothing worth the tag. And we knew it. Elway was courting QBs and got cut off by Worm-tongue. And Kubiak said He believed in Munkeyspunk Spunk.

                                                                          So we fell from glory. And after 7 seasons of what should be top picks... here we are with a Hobbit and VJ carrying our ring hopes. 🤦🏽‍♂️
                                                                          FYP
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                                                                            • #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Old Coyote
                                                                              But we knew he wasn't worth the tag. Lol..
                                                                              He'd get lost.
                                                                              Siemian was better because of that.

                                                                              He had nothing worth the tag. And we knew it. Elway was courting QBs and got cut off by Worm-tongue. And Kubiak said He believed in Munkeyspunk Spunk.

                                                                              So we fell from glory. And after 7 seasons of what should be top picks... here we are with a Hobbit carrying our ring hopes. 🤦🏽‍♂️
                                                                              If the cupboard is otherwise bare... it can make sense to overpay for one year. Cousins banked on that more than once.

                                                                              But I'm guessing there were other factors I'm forgetting.

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                                                                                  In an alternate reality we’re in Year 6 of Kirk Cousins. We still wouldn’t have ever won anything but maybe there are a couple heartbreaking wild card losses in there and some time when the team was actually watchable.
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                                                                                      When it comes to "they had their QB issues to sort through", I wish Elway had not panicked to the point of not vetting Paxton Lynch enough, probably an improvised move after losing Osweiler. That season should have been a 'reset' phase with Mark Sanchez at QB despite his shaky performance in camp.

                                                                                      At least Sanchez was a veteran that had won playoff games with a strong defense. The Broncos would have either landed near the top of the draft to consider Trubisky/Watson/Mahomes or borrowed more time to find a proper solution at QB without investing in Lynch.

                                                                                      The following sequence of shuffling through QBs and coordinators without any commitment was a disaster.
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                                                                                        • #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by gunns

                                                                                          FYP
                                                                                          That edit is not making me feel better. 🤦🏼‍♂️

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                                                                                              In another alternate reality, Denver is in year 3 of Matt Stafford. Everyone forgets that the ball was in Denvers court on that...with an offer from Detroit that the Broncos turned down.
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                                                                                                • #25
                                                                                                  In another alternative reality Elway drafted Josh Allen in 2018 and the broncos and Chiefs have been fighting each other in the AFC championship the last three years. Elway still left the GM position but in this case because the Penner Walton group added him to the owners lists after his dominance as GM.

                                                                                                  Its kind of wierd Elway didn't draft Allen because he is kind of more like Elway himself coming out than any other player recently in many ways. Minus some of the polish though. Big with a very very strong arm. Can run and take a hit. A good leader who plays better with the game on the line. A massive threat throwing and running when plays broke down (when Shanny became HC then there wasn't as many breakdowns but before that is a completely different story). Younger people might not know that Elway ran effectively in his early Broncos years. He sometimes ran over DBs like you see Allen doing. It took him a few years, like Allen, before his passing game developed fully.
                                                                                                  Last edited by uplink; 08-09-2023, 12:09 AM.

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                                                                                                    • Chicago_Bronco
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                                                                                                      Chicago_Bronco commented
                                                                                                      08-09-2023, 07:34 AM
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                                                                                                      Oh... don't get me started on this one. Elway was scouting Allen. Seemed like a no-brainer. We were so mad in my house when they didn't pick him. We have some WY connections. Chubb wasn't a bad pick, but there's always linebackers. There's not always 6'5" QBs that can throw and run like that.

                                                                                                      Broncos didn't take Allen, and Broncos fans were subjected to Case Keenum. ****-a-doodle-doo.
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