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  • Fangio hates Lock, exposed

    Contrast Vic Fangio's review of Drew Lock's Week 16 performance with that of Teddy Bridgewater's in Week 13 and a pattern emerges.

  • #2
    Yep. We are a dumpster fire.

    telenovela style.

    Shameful display by Fangio.
    after a shameful 3 year display by the Broncos under his charge.
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    • #3
      Maybe he was talking about himself and his coaching staff.

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      • #4
        It's easily the most unprofessional coaching behavior I've seen since the McDaniels era. Even when coaches feel this way, they don't talk it. They front themselves for poor planning and preparation. And in this case that is actually problem #1.

        Vic is a low rent goon. Lost every ounce of respect.

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        • #5
          What coach likes the worst QB in the league?

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          • #6
            Yup, it was funny how after a horrible game and loss to get first place, that he said Teddy 'did some good things.' But Drew with near identical stats (better actually, no turnovers by him), he as 'up and down.' Drew may end up being nothing special, but Fangio can't stand him. Not hard to see why, Teddy allows him to play a defensive game with a 'just OK enough' enough (although it isn't). Lock means offense, and that completely screws up Fangio's ideal dream for the team. Can't wait until they are all gone.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BroncoFox View Post
              Lock means offense.
              Lock means offense?? They had 158 yards of offense… 158 yards

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tangerine View Post

                Lock means offense?? They had 158 yards of offense… 158 yards
                And a sad 14 rushing attempts. Pat did Lock nor the team many favors. But what I meant is that Teddy was a Fangio team philosophy. The 'safe' (if boring) player. Lock is a bigger play/bigger mistake type of guy. So would have thrown Fangio's plan off completely. Lock never really had a chance to win the starting job, I think that's obvious. And I think if Lock had started every game this year, we would have seen a different version of him.

                It doesn't matter now anyway, Teddy is gone, Drew is probably a backup since we don't have to pay him, and we get a new, less stubborn coaching staff.

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                • #9
                  This is how terrible the Broncos offense was, the Cowboys, only 10 minutes into the 1st last night, had as many yards as the Broncos for the entire game.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
                    It's easily the most unprofessional coaching behavior I've seen since the McDaniels era. Even when coaches feel this way, they don't talk it. They front themselves for poor planning and preparation. And in this case that is actually problem #1.

                    Vic is a low rent goon. Lost every ounce of respect.
                    wait till Lock leaves and you will start to hear the “rest of the story”

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                    • #11
                      Fans are to focused on the ball and not everything else. Teddy makes the right call pre snap to put the offense in position to be successful. Unfortunately Teddy is now limited physical to execute. Lock just runs the play called.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BroncoFox View Post

                        And a sad 14 rushing attempts. Pat did Lock nor the team many favors. But what I meant is that Teddy was a Fangio team philosophy. The 'safe' (if boring) player. Lock is a bigger play/bigger mistake type of guy. So would have thrown Fangio's plan off completely. Lock never really had a chance to win the starting job, I think that's obvious. And I think if Lock had started every game this year, we would have seen a different version of him.

                        It doesn't matter now anyway, Teddy is gone, Drew is probably a backup since we don't have to pay him, and we get a new, less stubborn coaching staff.
                        Makes you wonder how many times Teddy has been changing the play to a run

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                        • #13
                          Fangio probably hates him because he is dumb as a rock. Your QB can't be the lowest I.Q. on the squad.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by elsid13 View Post
                            Fans are to focused on the ball and not everything else. Teddy makes the right call pre snap to put the offense in position to be successful. Unfortunately Teddy is now limited physical to execute. Lock just runs the play called.
                            Now limited?

                            He's been that his whole career.

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                            • #15
                              the worst thing about our QB situation is that they both have qualities that if present in one player would be ideal, but separate, terrible. Lock has an arm and some swag but is off target and a turnip between the ears. Ted is smart and accurate but has low confidence, fear of injury, a noodle arm and is afraid to throw downfield. What a pickle

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by ceh View Post

                                wait till Lock leaves and you will start to hear the “rest of the story”
                                It's not limited to Lock. Vic's thrown guys under the bus in unprofessional ways in the press multiple times. And if he was just a guy that always laid out how he felt, that would be one thing. But the guy's simultaneously had kneepads on all year for Shurm and Teddy. In situations where there was absolutely no defense to be offered.

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                                • #17
                                  has Lock helped win one game this year? Pretty sure he's lost every game he's played in. plus, vic kissed lock's ass all last year. i think it's a starter thing.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
                                    It's easily the most unprofessional coaching behavior I've seen since the McDaniels era. Even when coaches feel this way, they don't talk it. They front themselves for poor planning and preparation. And in this case that is actually problem #1.

                                    Vic is a low rent goon. Lost every ounce of respect.
                                    I agree. Disappointed. That coaching staff for all its experience is really very limited.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post

                                      It's not limited to Lock. Vic's thrown guys under the bus in unprofessional ways in the press multiple times. And if he was just a guy that always laid out how he felt, that would be one thing. But the guy's simultaneously had kneepads on all year for Shurm and Teddy. In situations where there was absolutely no defense to be offered.
                                      Vic is covering his own ass. He fired Scangs. His pick was Shurmur. He picked Teddy over Drew.

                                      Look At McManus, not happy with Vic.

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                                      • #20
                                        This is the narrative Jensen and Kelberman have been pushing all year. It's just as bad as the shock radio pundits stirring up faux drama to get listeners. Doubling down after betting on the wrong horse. Not surprising at all.

                                        The idea that Drew is entitled to or deserves more praise for his performance yesterday is just laughable. It's absolutely amazing that people get riled up over a coach who criticized the whole offense and didn't polish off Drew because he went a game without an interception.

                                        The whole offense stunk. The drops, the missed blocks, missed reads, the lack of adjustments by the QB at the LOS when the Raiders were clearly selling out against the run, etc.

                                        What players or group would deserve praise when you don't even amass 160 yards of total offense? Get real.

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post
                                          Look At McManus, not happy with Vic.
                                          Nice find, this article, Shell.


                                          And speaking of McManus, apparently he and Vic can't stand each other either. Vic has been heard making cutting comments at McManus on the sidelines. Bad move against a team captain, players' union rep, and the only player left from the SB50 season (and a guy you robbed of two chances to set a new FG record).

                                          Bad form there, grumpy old coach.

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                                          • #22
                                            Originally posted by Requiem View Post
                                            This is the narrative Jensen and Kelberman have been pushing all year. It's just as bad as the shock radio pundits stirring up faux drama to get listeners. Doubling down after betting on the wrong horse. Not surprising at all.

                                            The idea that Drew is entitled to or deserves more praise for his performance yesterday is just laughable. It's absolutely amazing that people get riled up over a coach who criticized the whole offense and didn't polish off Drew because he went a game without an interception.
                                            But that completion percentage tho!?!?!

                                            The whole offense stunk. The drops, the missed blocks, missed reads, the lack of adjustments by the QB at the LOS when the Raiders were clearly selling out against the run, etc.

                                            What players or group would deserve praise when you don't even amass 160 yards of total offense? Get real.
                                            And when that is the case, you expect a quality coach to stand up and say "This starts with us."

                                            Because real coaches take accountability. Vic is really pretty shocking in how slippery he is on this. In many cases when coaches say they own it, they're just covering publicly for their guys.

                                            But in this case, he and his staff really do deserve probably a lion's share of the blame. And he's not having any of it. As unprofessionally as he buried Scangarello in public, he sheds blame on himself and his chosens.

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                                            • #23
                                              For a guy considered a long term project with some good tangible tools like Lock....I think it can be said that Denver was among the worst places he could have ended up. He was placed with a staff that didn't want him from the start, wasn't a staff with any QB development skill set, and the staff, forced to play him due to injuries etc...and already biased against him...clearly has never developed a good raport or working relationship with the guy.

                                              I've maintained all along that Lock is who he is based on all the reps he got coming up. I still believe that, but I aslo think he is capable of more than what he's shown in Denver with this staff.

                                              For his sake, I really hope he does end up in Kansas City where he will get the best coaching available to a young QB, and serve as a viable backup and maybe even succeed when his number is called at some point. He's a good kid who deserved better than this.

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                                              • #24
                                                Here you go:

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                                                McManus vs. Fangio is Embarrassing

                                                The Broncos are the only team in the NFL that consistently features their head coach and kicker locking horns. Cryptic social media tweets in the past from Brandon McManus and less-than-complimentary press remarks from Fangio have suggested that the water in the room is at the very least tepid between both men.

                                                In Las Vegas, we once again witnessed a spat between the head coach and kicking specialist. McManus originally connected on a 49-yard field goal to give the Broncos their first points of the game in the second quarter.

                                                But when the team captain was tasked with completing a 55-yard attempt late in a third-quarter rally by Denver, he kicked the ball wide, wide left. Sure, it wasn't anything new for a kicker to miss a long attempt, but when McManus trotted back to the sideline, it seemed like unpleasant words were exchanged between him and Fangio.

                                                McManus is the lone remaining player from the Super Bowl 50 roster and the longest-tenured guy on the team. He’s a team captain who has been a model of consistency,

                                                Prior to Sunday's game, McManus had connected on 21-of-25 field-goal attempts and 28-of-29 extra points. ‘BMac’ is respected in the locker room as the Broncos' NFLPA representative and respected in the community which has flourished as a result of his various charitable efforts.

                                                Then there’s Fangio, who’s wildly respected by NFL coaches for his defensive philosophy and is in his third year as Denver's head coach. He boasts a record of 19-28 after falling to the Raiders on Sunday and has garnered more criticism than praise from media and fans during his time in Denver.

                                                Something’s got to give because this feud of kicker vs. head coach is yet another embarrassing footnote in what’s shaping up to be another losing season.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by Zerovoltz View Post

                                                  For his sake, I really hope he does end up in Kansas City where he will get the best coaching available to a young QB, and serve as a viable backup and maybe even succeed when his number is called at some point. He's a good kid who deserved better than this.
                                                  You can HAVE him! He can be K.C.’s official sideline Jeezy lip syncer.

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