Of course it is music.

Seems rap music was much better back then, contained "talking" and music. I sometimes ask how you can dance to some of the rap today. You could back then. To be fair, I wasn't very fond of the Grateful Dead music.

Maybe Jerry's difinition of music isn't what I think of when I think of the word music. He kind of comes of as a hater

I wouldn’t call rap a type of “music.” It’s a type of “singing,” or delivery. It’s associated with hip hop music, but it can be a part of other types of music.

1940s gospel

I'd seen that clip before....very catchy.

Not music according to Jerry Garcia.

Does Jerry not consider rhythm part of the music? So I guess piano and guitars are musical instruments, but drums aren’t.

Rhythm is only one of three elements that define music: melody, harmony and rhythm.

By that definition, much of rap doesn’t qualify.

Good read.

Yeah, I said it’s only part of the music. Rap itself isn’t a type of music. It’s just one of the ingredients like singing.

Singing is a vocal instrument that adds melody to the music. Rapping is a vocal instrument that adds rhythm to the music.

Wait ....

YOU'RE quoting Ben Shapiro?!

YOU'RE try'na be that old teacher who takes over Robin Williams' poetry class in Dead Poets Society ...?!


ALRIGHT! Enough funny business! ..... Who are you and what have you done with L.A. BRONCOS FAN?

I am?

If so, then it's unintentional, I assure you.

Yes.

EDM on the other hand…

I just watched this again...some thoughts and questions -

1. The white drummer in the background...he's into it!

2. I'd consider this music. It's not my thing, but clearly this is a form of music. There is ensamble of folks playing notes on instruments. the guy isn't singing, but he's delivering the voice part of these songs. Is monks chanting music etc? Probaably so in my mind...the key being they are presenting some sort of audible sounds that are not just intended to communicate as simply talking is.

3. The second song/rap this guy does, as best I can tell, is about striving and getting paid to rap (unless I misunderstood the lyrics....ENTIRELY possible) so for those who have a much better understanding of black culture than I do...it seems like it's a big deal in that culture to want to be a rapper..so much so that even when a guy achieves at something else, like football for example, seems like a good number of black men really want to find success as rappers. I worked with a guy who sadly quit working with us becasue he thought he had a record deal in place. Unfortunately it was scam. Kadirius Toney is a rapper, Dwayne Bowe is a rapper. Chappel, had a skit about if black people all got reparations, what would happen, and one of the skit news reporters, in the report, said 1.5 million new record labels were all started on reparatoins day. I'm wanting to learn more about the appeal of this if anyone knows or cares to answer.

Also, here is a link to the guy who thought he had a deal that didn't have a deal. We used to give him crap at work because his real name is Todd. I actually took a picture with him so when he got famous (I had hoped as did he) that I could say, I knew Trigga when he was just Todd.