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Originally posted by Old Coyote View PostHe's not trying to win Shurmer a job.
he got his contract.
Good for him making the tough choice
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I will not even think about being critical of any of our WRs when you have Teddy, can't throw the ball more than 5 yards, Bridgewater and Drew, can't hit water in the middle of the ocean, Lock throwing passes.
You get a guy like Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson behind center and Sutton, Jeudy and Patrick all look much much different. Hell, even Kirk Cousins or Derek Carr make them look all world. TBW and Lock really are that bad. (TBW is worse tho, just saying... hope his eggs unscramble but he sucks).
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Originally posted by 76er View PostI will not even think about being critical of any of our WRs when you have Teddy, can't throw the ball more than 5 yards, Bridgewater and Drew, can't hit water in the middle of the ocean, Lock throwing passes.
You get a guy like Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson behind center and Sutton, Jeudy and Patrick all look much much different. Hell, even Kirk Cousins or Derek Carr make them look all world. TBW and Lock really are that bad. (TBW is worse tho, just saying... hope his eggs unscramble but he sucks).
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Eh, I don't think drops are a huge issue. He has been credited with between 4-5 drops from various sources the whole year. Nothing too out of line. A few of them would have been the other day.
The big issue is the low percentage (sub 60-percent) of the targets that result in catches. A lot of that has to do with poor quarterback play, but also the fact that a decent amount of his targets come from low percentage throws Bridgewater really doesn't have the arm for.
Earlier in the season, he and Patrick were sporting above 70-percent catch rates based on targets. That's plummeted for both of them the past five weeks or so. Not really surprising. Unacceptable for #1/#2 WR to average 60-percent efficiency between the both of them. Sutton's never had above a 60-percent catch-rate ever as a pro. That's not good.
Denver's best bet to make the Sutton/Patrick contract(s) worth it is to go all-in on one of the high-end veteran QBs that could be on the market. There isn't a rookie QB in the 2022 class who is going to come in right away and move the needle that much better than what we have seen this year, IMHO. Though there are a few guys who have hoses that are absolutely great on the type of routes and throws that maximize Sutton's potential.
I'm still surprised Paton paid both Sutton and Patrick. The deals are friendly and easy to get out of well before their duration expires, but without a QB in the fold it seems a little bit iffy. We will see.
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Originally posted by Requiem View PostEh, I don't think drops are a huge issue. He has been credited with between 4-5 drops from various sources the whole year. Nothing too out of line. A few of them would have been the other day.
The big issue is the low percentage (sub 60-percent) of the targets that result in catches. A lot of that has to do with poor quarterback play, but also the fact that a decent amount of his targets come from low percentage throws Bridgewater really doesn't have the arm for.
Earlier in the season, he and Patrick were sporting above 70-percent catch rates based on targets. That's plummeted for both of them the past five weeks or so. Not really surprising. Unacceptable for #1/#2 WR to average 60-percent efficiency between the both of them. Sutton's never had above a 60-percent catch-rate ever as a pro. That's not good.
Denver's best bet to make the Sutton/Patrick contract(s) worth it is to go all-in on one of the high-end veteran QBs that could be on the market. There isn't a rookie QB in the 2022 class who is going to come in right away and move the needle that much better than what we have seen this year, IMHO. Though there are a few guys who have hoses that are absolutely great on the type of routes and throws that maximize Sutton's potential.
I'm still surprised Paton paid both Sutton and Patrick. The deals are friendly and easy to get out of well before their duration expires, but without a QB in the fold it seems a little bit iffy. We will see.
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Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
Bowlen rake aside, on a cap basis, we can afford iffy. I prefer that to where those resources were going otherwise.
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Originally posted by Requiem View PostEh, I don't think drops are a huge issue. He has been credited with between 4-5 drops from various sources the whole year. Nothing too out of line. A few of them would have been the other day.
The big issue is the low percentage (sub 60-percent) of the targets that result in catches. A lot of that has to do with poor quarterback play, but also the fact that a decent amount of his targets come from low percentage throws Bridgewater really doesn't have the arm for.
Earlier in the season, he and Patrick were sporting above 70-percent catch rates based on targets. That's plummeted for both of them the past five weeks or so. Not really surprising. Unacceptable for #1/#2 WR to average 60-percent efficiency between the both of them. Sutton's never had above a 60-percent catch-rate ever as a pro. That's not good.
Denver's best bet to make the Sutton/Patrick contract(s) worth it is to go all-in on one of the high-end veteran QBs that could be on the market. There isn't a rookie QB in the 2022 class who is going to come in right away and move the needle that much better than what we have seen this year, IMHO. Though there are a few guys who have hoses that are absolutely great on the type of routes and throws that maximize Sutton's potential.
I'm still surprised Paton paid both Sutton and Patrick. The deals are friendly and easy to get out of well before their duration expires, but without a QB in the fold it seems a little bit iffy. We will see.
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the albert O drop at :28 seconds on 1st and 10 of the last drive of the first half
at the cincy 42 was a back breaker
7 yards closer for McManus
7 yards further for cincy to go.
possible 6 point swing
and in the turnover from Lock potential 9 points from 2 play that should have been made 💯 of the time
could have been a 16-13 lead for Denver maybe trying to keep cincy from scoring on the last drive
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Originally posted by ceh View Postthe albert O drop at :28 seconds on 1st and 10 of the last drive of the first half
at the cincy 42 was a back breaker
7 yards closer for McManus
7 yards further for cincy to go.
possible 6 point swing
and in the turnover from Lock potential 9 points from 2 play that should have been made 💯 of the time
could have been a 16-13 lead for Denver maybe trying to keep cincy from scoring on the last drive
They get 9 yards on the next play. But by then, there’s only 17 seconds left, because they somehow managed to waste 3 1/2 minutes to go only like 30 yards.
There wasn’t realistically enough time to get the TD by that point. It’s pretty simple, run the ball, get the first, use your last TO, take a shot at the endzone then kick the field goal, the clock at least keeps running if you do t get the first. This is football 101. Instead they throw it, terrible pass by Teddy and we all know the rest…
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Originally posted by OmegaBronco View PostI said it when it happened that this was a bad signing. Nothing against Sutton, but he's not an elite receiver imo. This could work out well tho if using him as trade bait.
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