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And 24 years ago today he retired. -
The purest style passer in nfl history. I know people say Brady etc but Elway was the best QB to ever play the game.
an Elway pass is on par with a Tyson uppercut. A leaning Jordan dunk. A Rivera cut fastball. Griffey Jr swing.
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What's his R.A.S.? How big are his hands?Comment
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It would be interesting what his RAS would be if they had that back then. I don’t know if they give out 10’s, but he would be close- 9.99?Originally posted by BowlenBall View PostComment
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dag, in another time I was a kid sitting next to a TV watching all those throws in real time. Hyped up and biting my nails over the game in which they occurred. I've always lived on the East Coast and the broncos were always on starting at 4pm because the AFC didn't really have another team in the later time zones that was good at all. That is probably why I stayed a livelong fan, because the broncos games where always on when I was a kid. Those throws were all when the score was broncos +- 10 points. Probably the broncos were down by 7 or 3 on average I bet when those throws happened. Elway always did it to bring back the broncos to win the game. I'm going to have to definitely sit down and watch a full game again to re live it.Last edited by uplink; 05-03-2023, 12:29 AM.Comment
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40 time please? This kid looks like a bust, better bring in DeBergComment
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My goodness. That arm.
My favorite play was the one against the Oilers (? maybe Seahawks) where he ducked under what appeared to be a sure sack, threw a TD strike to Sharpe.Comment
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Seahawks, in the Kingdome. Asked after the game how he saw the guy coming from behind him, said the lights inside cast a shadow and he played off those.Originally posted by BroncoJoe View PostMy goodness. That arm.
My favorite play was the one against the Oilers (? maybe Seahawks) where he ducked under what appeared to be a sure sack, threw a TD strike to Sharpe.
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I don't know about this Elway kid.... they drafted a dude in the 8th round who I think is muuuuuuuch better.
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That guy isn't going to make the team. Rumor is that coach Reeves didn't even want him they just had to pick somebody.Originally posted by BowlenBall View PostI don't know about this Elway kid.... they drafted a dude in the 8th round who I think is muuuuuuuch better.
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How does everyone think Elway's game would have translated to the NFL of today? Would he be brought up as a dual threat QB since he was rather mobile, or be forced into being a pocket only passer? 4500 yrds a year and 40 TDS?Comment
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He’d have far higher stats in todays nfl. Back then 3K was a feat. No worries of a Lawrence Taylor type ripping your head off with no flags….Originally posted by jessefitts87 View Post
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When he retired, he had the most wins ever for a QB, and 50k+ yards. I think he might have had (at the time) the most TD passes as well, but I'm not sure about that.Originally posted by jessefitts87 View Post
He'd do just fine in any era. I'm biased, but I believe he's the best ever.
To quote John Madden - "That's not an arm. It's a gun!"
It's also amazing to me he played his entire (?) career without an ACL in one of his legs.Last edited by BroncoJoe; 05-03-2023, 10:48 AM.Comment
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Elway in todays league, Elway would destroy people.Comment
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I wholeheartedly agree that he is the best ever. I was just contemplating whether he'd be forced into a dual threat mold and if so, how would he have done against bigger, faster, stronger LBs and CBs. He still ranks 11th, will be 12th after this year once Josh Allen passes him. So, he's obviously a specimen in that he had the arm, the knowledge, and the movement, but would one of these idiot coaches make him play like Vick or Newton and ruin his career with an injury?Originally posted by BroncoJoe View Post
When he retired, he had the most wins ever for a QB, and 50k+ yards. I think he might have had (at the time) the most TD passes as well, but I'm not sure about that.
He'd do just fine in any era. I'm biased, but I believe he's the best ever.
To quote John Madden - "That's not an arm. It's a gun!"
It's also amazing to me he played his entire (?) career without an ACL in one of his legs.Comment
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He wouldn’t be forced into anything. Josh Allen isn’t.Originally posted by jessefitts87 View Post
todays nfl for a QB is so much easier than Elways era. Mediocre QBs hit 4K yards now. None of them would sniff that in Elways era.
CBs could literally grab WRs all the way down the field. Deion Sanders always had a grip of jersey. WR routes over the middle were labeled death routes cause safeties could tee up without any flags.
todays offenses have yellow flags benefitting them all game. Not back then. Touch a QB today it’s 15 yards. Use your helmet into the chin of a QB back then it’s celebrated on ESPN.Comment
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That first clip, where he skips around the defenders and quickly set and throws a bomb on target, is a thing of beauty. Just don't see that with any other QB that ever played. I think Reeves used to limit him through the first part of the games and then in the 4th quarter just let him loose out of necessary and it always seemed to result in quite a show to behold.Comment
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This is the answer to the question "what if he was limited by coaching?". He definitely was limited by coaching every first half by Reeves... Sometimes for 3 qtrs. But just like uplink says, he would make a comeback when he was released. That's why they called him "The Comeback Kid" before he was "The Duke".
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you'd hardly ever see defenders getting hands on his shorter throws, unless the throws were off target, because he threw so hard. Seems the defenders didn't have time to move much at all between the time the ball left Elway's hand and the time it was on the receiver. It was just a whole different game with those balls moving so fast.Comment
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Wolf hates the pick.Comment
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As much as I complained about John Elway, GM, I loved John Elway, QB.
I really don’t think there was a quarterback that carried the weight of an entire offense as much as Elway. He got to enjoy a more balanced offense in his later years under Shanahan. Prior to Shanahan, I don’t think another player did more with less. When the game hung in the balance, no one was more clutch than number “7”!!!
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Nah, I think he would be used as a pocket passer that uses his legs when needed. But he would definitely be getting QB draws in the red zone and boots here and there. Most of his rushing yards would come off of improvisation from plays breaking down.Originally posted by jessefitts87 View PostComment
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I could watch that video all day 7 days a week.
Good grief - what talent. That guy's arm was a rocket launcher. And the accuracy/elusiveness/ability to scramble. Holy cow.
I grew up a Fran Tarkington fan. Once Elway came here - I was done watching any other team.Comment
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