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  • End of the 1st half debacle.

    I realize this has been discussed in passing in other threads, but it really deserves its own thread. Because it very likely cost us the game, which very likely cost us a decent chance at ending the playoff drought.

    We have 3:30 and all of our timeouts. We get a 1st down, and then they have to use a timeout for an injury on 2nd down at our 34. Still three timeouts, and 1:34 left. The world is your oyster. You don't need to work the sidelines. You can run each play clock down as low as you wish. You have plenty of time to try for six. But if you get three, you get it as time expires. BECAUSE YOU HAVE THREE TIMEOUTS! You. Are. In. Control.

    We get it to our 45. And we let the clock run. With three timeouts. Okay, we're obviously settling on taking a field goal. We move it to their 42, and use a timeout with :28 remaining. Still two timeouts. You're technically in FG range now. The world is still your oyster. But you need to think about a first down.

    We get 9 to the 33 and take one of our two timeouts. It's 3rd and 1. This is when you just have to be kind of careful. The only thing you don't want to do is 1) anything to kill the clock, combined with 2) not getting a 1st down. Run the ball and get the easy first down? Sure. You use your last timeout, and take a couple shots at the end zone. Throw a quick out and pick up the 1st down? Even better. You still have anything to the middle of the field, because you have the timeout. There is literally one thing you can't do.

    We do the one thing you cannot do. And, to make it worse, we miss the long (only because we made it long) field goal. And THEN we call our timeout. And THEN, with JUST NINE SECONDS LEFT, we leave them the middle of the field, at altitude, with a timeout. And, might I remind you, we did this AFTER WE USED OUR LAST TIMEOUT! Our defensive savant of a coach gives them the middle of the field. It takes them five seconds to get 19 yards. (Vic probably saw that they were going into halftime with a timeout in their pocket, and like Napoleon Dynamite, said, "Lucky!")

    Six-point swing (you could argue ten, since we had plenty of time to try for the TD). We lose by five. No team in the NFL could screw that up that bad. But we can. Because we have Vic in charge of the game clock. And Pat in charge of the play call.

    I had to get that off my chest. For therapy. And posterity. It was one of those things where you say, "I bet that will cost us the game." And then, you spend the next ninety minutes, dreading the inevitable.

  • #2
    All of that was ti try and manage Teddy. That should tell you how bad he is. Or, was.

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    • #3
      i dont know, i wasnt watching. I started watching when Redzone told me Lock, the peoples qb , was coming in.

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      • #4
        It’s like the fans know more than the damn FO.




        fire him this week.


        interviews for coaches can start a few weeks before end of week 17.


        start the process now.

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        • #5
          I was more dialed in on how pathetic Teddy was on that drive but yes everything about it was stunningly bad. This was a resume loss for Fangio’s shitcanning.

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          • #6
            Meh..should have made the kick.

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            • #7
              Someone posted that it wasn’t indicative of a team who had claimed this was a playoff caliber game for them… can’t recall who posted it, spot on.

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              • #8
                Did they have 2 timeouts or just 1 when we still had the ball? Vic has been horrible at end of the half situations

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Yerner_ View Post
                  Meh..should have made the kick.
                  That still doesn't excuse the poor clock management to end the half

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Yerner_ View Post
                    Meh..should have made the kick.
                    Yeah. But it’s 51 yards. He should make it. But it would have been easy to make it shorter.

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                    • #11
                      Absolutely horrendous, then he double down by, once again, mismanaging the TO’s at the end of the game.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DomCasual View Post

                        Yeah. But it’s 51 yards. He should make it. But it would have been easy to make it shorter.
                        Yeah, 51 yards, even in Denver, isn’t a give me. There’s no issue trying it, just don’t leave time after, as they’ll be taking over almost in FG range.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SGB View Post
                          Did they have 2 timeouts or just 1 when we still had the ball? Vic has been horrible at end of the half situations
                          The Bengals? They used one on the missed challenge. Another on the injury right around the two-minute warning. And then they took one into halftime.

                          We had three. The entire time, Vic had that look on his face like he was getting his prostate checked.

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                          • #14
                            They were at mid field and the clock was just running down wasting time. Even the announcer called them out on it. Stupid 3 yard passes inbounds.

                            The hilarity was they called the WR out of bounds to stop the clock…..Fangio calls TO there.


                            he is the worst HC in Broncos history. Never seen a coaching staff lose more games by themselves.


                            afc north owns Fangio. Every single Coach from that division slapped Fangio across the face.

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                            • #15
                              Fangio admitted in his presser that he called the wrong defense to end the second half. To me the biggest mistake was the play calling by the Broncos the whole first half. It was horrible.

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                              • #16
                                Dom's mind is breaking over Fangio's perpetual clock management issues.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by SGB View Post

                                  That still doesn't excuse the poor clock management to end the half
                                  agreed. just saying that's a makeable kick by a kicker that gets paid alot to do it. would have left the broncos in a really good spot going into the second half. it's a players league and our players failed today on stuff that wasn't always about coaching.

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                                  • Old Dude
                                    Old Dude commented
                                    Editing a comment
                                    You mean like dropped passes, QB being stripped deep in the red zone, QBs and WRS on different pages of the playbook, throws behind open receivers, blockers failing to pick up blitzes, double penalties on PRs ... stuff like that? You might have a point.

                                • #18
                                  just garbage end. that is the fangio era in a nutshell. way too conservative for no damn reason. awful

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                                  • #19
                                    Originally posted by Yerner_ View Post

                                    agreed. just saying that's a makeable kick by a kicker that gets paid alot to do it. would have left the broncos in a really good spot going into the second half. it's a players league and our players failed today on stuff that wasn't always about coaching.
                                    it’s both. leave no time for the other team and make the kick.

                                    also didn’t Albert O drop a perfect 7 yard pass

                                    would have kept the clock running and 7 yards closer?

                                    i’d say players 70% coaches 30 %

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                                    • #20
                                      Originally posted by ceh View Post

                                      it’s both. leave no time for the other team and make the kick.

                                      also didn’t Albert O drop a perfect 7 yard pass

                                      would have kept the clock running and 7 yards closer?

                                      i’d say players 70% coaches 30 %
                                      These players have no accountability for their play. Just look at Lock's interview at the end of the game. The season is on the line...and these guys are hiding behind excuses.

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                                      • #21
                                        Shame, overall the D is good to go. The O is a QB away from interesting and we MUST replace our coach and start over with a new system. 2023 or 24 is probably the most realistic year we can hope for something special now. It's baffling how bad our coaching staff is with challenges and clock management. Flush the turd, I have no faith that he can un**** his late game issues.

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                                        • #22
                                          Death by Ineptitude

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                                          • #23
                                            When you have 3:30 and all of your TO’s, you shouldn’t be trying 50+ FG. With that much time, we should be arguing today, why did we settle for a FG inside the 15 instead of going for it on 4-2? But our offense sucks so bad, that’s what we’re left with.
                                            Last edited by R8R H8R; 12-20-2021, 08:33 AM.

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