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    Largest rocket launch in world history.



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  • #2
    The space X comment was great.


    We experienced a
    “rapid unscheduled disassembly.”

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    • #3
      If it was easy everyone would be doing it...

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      • #4
        Ouch!

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        • #5
          That fool had to have fins on top.
          🤦🏽‍♂️

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            • #7
              Forward, onward, upward! Love it! Next one maybe or the one after that.

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              • #8
                Man that sucks. Failure is not an option Elon. Get it together.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BamaBronco16
                  Man that sucks. Failure is not an option Elon. Get it together.
                  The complexity with that many engines is so much higher. They're going to have to learn through some trial and error for sure.

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                  • #10
                    anything after clearing the pad was a bonus. They probably won't get Starship in orbit until maybe the end of the year.

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                    • #11
                      Just the solution to the pogo effect is phenomenal. The expectations for this flight were not high. Elon hit the nail on the head, so much learned... more than they could have hoped for as the flight made a lot more progress than expected. The cool part now is crunching data, modeling future inputs and expected outputs and then engineering solutions into the launch vehicle. This was awesome!

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                      • #12
                        Prior to launch, Elon said the flight had at best a 50% chance of going to orbit, so it’s not like this was unexpected, or considered a setback.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BroncoBeavis

                          The complexity with that many engines is so much higher. They're going to have to learn through some trial and error for sure.
                          Well I read an article about public and private internet, so I feel like I'm an expert in space rockets now. So I'm saying Elon just doesn't know what he's doing.

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                          • #14
                            The stress on that thing. It didn't look aerodynamic enough for the task at hand. We need to escape faster than that if we want to get out of the cage.

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                            • 76er
                              76er commented
                              Editing a comment
                              oops, meant to reply not comment.

                          • #15
                            Looks like cgi..

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                            • #16
                              Originally posted by OmegaBronco
                              The stress on that thing. It didn't look aerodynamic enough for the task at hand. We need to escape faster than that if we want to get out of the cage.
                              Yes... that is why the solution to the pogo effect was so cool to hear. Basically using exhaust to replace expended fuel. So think of it in these terms. A can of Soda when full... you can stand on it. When empty it crushes. So as the fuel is expended it becomes a tin can that can be easily crushed. Rocket engines are microbursts of energy (thrust) creating a constant and repetitive crushing of the can effect. They said the spent fuel is captured in exhaust and that exhaust is used to pressurize the vessel to maintain structural strength. Imagine other rockets use the same solution, just fascinating how much thought goes into solutions for problems that we don't even think about!

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                              • #17
                                Looks like a European Suppository.


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                                • #18

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                                  • #19
                                    Looks like Elon's ****ing up yet another company....

                                    A Starship Post-mortem: Why the giant rocket failed and why it's Elon Musk's fault

                                    "​For some reason, Musk became convinced early on that he did not want the launch tower to have:
                                    • A flame-diverter or flame trench to redirect the blast from the booster’s engines
                                    • A water deluge system to dump a massive amount of water around the launch tower during liftoff
                                    The launch facilities at Kennedy have both of these. Even the launch pads used for the much smaller Falcon 9 have both a flame trench and a water deluge. They help to protect not just the launch pad, and the surrounding area, they also help to reduce the noise. Which sounds trivial, but that noise is energy. That’s what broke up the concrete under the Starship Stage Zero, not the fire. That’s what sent car-sized chunks flying in all directions.

                                    A flame diverter and a water deluge would have greatly reduced, or even eliminated, the damage to the area around the pad. They would have prevented the blow back of debris that damaged Starship before it even left the ground. It might have headed off the whole cascade of events that resulted in that button being pressed 4 minutes into the flight.

                                    We don’t have to guess about whose decision it was not to implement these systems, because Musk already said he decided to skip these systems over the recommendations of his engineers. Musk even had a preview of what was going to happen, as past test flights of the upper stage also resulted in significant spalling of concrete structures and damage to at least one of the ships. He just made them try different kinds of concrete.

                                    The parts for a water deluge were actually on site, ready to install, but Musk decided to forego that installation—likely so he could enjoy the pun of launching his super-joint on 4/20. Which was something Musk had joked about doing months ago.

                                    Hopefully he enjoyed the joke, because the EPA and FAA are going to be thinking long and hard before they authorize another flight from Boca Chica. All those engineers, and all those workers, and all their good work, is held hostage to Musk’s whims.

                                    Also a victim of Musk’s decision to leave these vital pieces off the table? The Artemis Program at NASA. Musk has already been awarded the contract to create the first lunar lander for the new program, but that lander is absolutely dependent on Starship. It’s a sure bet that Musk won’t have his part of the program ready on schedule. It’s going to be some time before we even so another test flight."

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                                    • #20
                                      I haven't looked into the reality behind his statement, but Musk stated that a diverter was in design, but was not ready for deployment in time for launch.

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                                      • #21
                                        Originally posted by BowlenBall

                                        The parts for a water deluge were actually on site, ready to install, but Musk decided to forego that installation—likely so he could enjoy the pun of launching his super-joint on 4/20. Which was something Musk had joked about doing months ago.​
                                        The launch was originally supposed to take place on Monday 4/17, but delayed because of a technical problem.

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                                        • #22
                                          Will we ever see anti-gravity systems in our day? About the only way it makes sense. Fuel takes to long. Screws up the weight. I can see it for missels. But not space.

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                                          • #23
                                            Elon Musk Made The Top Of His Rocket More Pointy Because Of The Movie 'The Dictator'😂👀


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                                            • #24
                                              Originally posted by OmegaBronco
                                              Will we ever see anti-gravity systems in our day? About the only way it makes sense. Fuel takes to long. Screws up the weight. I can see it for missels. But not space.
                                              Unlikely. Considering we basically still don't even understand gravity. What it is or what causes it.

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                                              • #25
                                                Originally posted by BroncoBeavis

                                                Unlikely. Considering we basically still don't even understand gravity. What it is or what causes it.
                                                IDK, put some giant magnets on it. Then apply some juice to amplify them. Or take a magnet train and make it vertical.

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