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  • About Three-in-Ten U.S. Adults Are Now Religiously Unaffiliated

    Thought this would be fun to share.




    See article: https://www.pewforum.org/2021/12/14/...-unaffiliated/

    Look at that chart. Notice which line is going UP and which is going DOWN?

  • #2
    I’ve got no religion. Just Jesus. Curve buster!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post
      I’ve got no religion. Just Jesus. Curve buster!
      So you don't identify as "Christian"? Would you then tell the pollster: "Other"?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by orangeatheist View Post

        So you don't identify as "Christian"? Would you then tell the pollster: "Other"?
        I was referring to the OP title

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        • #5
          I don’t care about religion one way or the other. Whatever floats your yacht.

          but it’s embarrassing for someone to be so obsessed and pissed about other peoples faith and religion….who gives a shit OP.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
            I don’t care about religion one way or the other. Whatever floats your yacht.

            but it’s embarrassing for someone to be so obsessed and pissed about other peoples faith and religion….who gives a shit OP.
            And do you have that same energy for those who profess their faith publicly, sir? I ask because I don't recall you posting in other faith-based threads about your non-caring for the subject. In fact, just checked the "Jesus is the Only Way" thread and don't see you commenting about the OP's "obsession". Do you save your indignities only for certain people?
            Last edited by orangeatheist; 12-16-2021, 08:45 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

              I was referring to the OP title
              So, for purposes of the poll, how would you classify yourself?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by orangeatheist View Post

                So, for purposes of the poll, how would you classify yourself?
                Just Jesus

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                  Just Jesus
                  That wasn't a poll option.
                  Here were your choices:

                  Protestant
                  Catholic
                  Other Faith
                  Religiously Unaffiliated
                  Refused

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by orangeatheist View Post

                    That wasn't a poll option.
                    Here were your choices:

                    Protestant
                    Catholic
                    Other Faith
                    Religiously Unaffiliated
                    Refused
                    It’s a bad poll. You can’t classify people. You know how devoted to Jesus I am and there is no good answer on there. Where would an evangelical put their choice?

                    Bummer. Waste of $

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by orangeatheist View Post

                      That wasn't a poll option.
                      Here were your choices:

                      Protestant
                      Catholic
                      Other Faith
                      Religiously Unaffiliated
                      Refused
                      Messianic Jew would be my guess… they’re fundamentalist and aggressive proselytizers…

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                      • #12
                        Not really shocking since we see time and time again people acknowledge Christ with their mouths, but not actions. Hard to sell religion to someone if you don't walk the walk.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                          It’s a bad poll. You can’t classify people. You know how devoted to Jesus I am and there is no good answer on there. Where would an evangelical put their choice?

                          Bummer. Waste of $
                          It's a poll. Polls "classify people". It's what they do.

                          Devotion to Jesus = a follower of Christ. Followers of Christ are generically called "Christians". Therefore, you would be classified as a "Christian" for the purposes of such a poll. You're not Catholic, therefore you'd fall into the "Protestant" camp, more specifically.

                          Regardless, Christian numbers as a whole are falling and "none" numbers are rising. I find that good news.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ElwayMD View Post
                            Not really shocking since we see time and time again people acknowledge Christ with their mouths, but not actions. Hard to sell religion to someone if you don't walk the walk.
                            Well, if they're "acknowledging Christ with their mouths, but not actions" such folks would still get dropped in this poll's "Christian" bucket. And it's interesting that over time that bucket is holding less and less.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ElwayMD View Post
                              Not really shocking since we see time and time again people acknowledge Christ with their mouths, but not actions. Hard to sell religion to someone if you don't walk the walk.
                              Yep.

                              That ship pretty much sailed forever in 2016.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by orangeatheist View Post

                                And do you have that same energy for those who profess their faith publicly, sir? I ask because I don't recall you posting in other faith-based threads about your non-caring for the subject. In fact, just checked the "Jesus is the Only Way" thread and don't see you commenting about the OP's "obsession". Do you save your indignities only for certain people?
                                Good observation.

                                Perhaps 1inch isn’t religious, but it’s clear that he feels some obligation to support his “coalition partners.”

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by orangeatheist View Post
                                  So you don't identify as "Christian"? Would you then tell the pollster: "Other"?
                                  No no, Shell is a "Christian" 6 days a week and twice on Sunday.

                                  But me? I am "Religiously unaffiliated," not an atheist. I don't think "other" applies to me, cause "other" connotes something specific, and what I believe is far from specific. I think Muhammad, Jesus, Buddha, Zoroaster (and others) had insights into what this life means, and tried to share those insights. I've read (and read and read) 6+ gospels of Jesus Christ and am left with the unshakable idea that Jesus was telling us we could do what he was doing. It was his followers (and ultimately churches) that chose to frame him as different than us - "above" us (please Shell, don't jump on that. If you read this far, keep on).


                                  To me, this topic is more about DEFINITIONS. Not just the definition of "atheist," but the definitions of "god," and even "belief." My feeling is what we "believe" doesn't matter at all. It IS what it IS, whatever that is, whether we believe it or not. Analogize to the U.S. Navy UFO videos ... I think our 5 puny senses are insufficient to notice, recognize and appreciate that there is more around us than we see, hear, taste and feel, and that the UFOs are simply part of that. They're here and have been here all along, it's just that our 5 senses haven't appreciated their presence - not until we enhanced our senses with, e.g. FLIR - Forward Looking Infrared Radar.

                                  This video discusses some of this with the question "what is reality?" The younger scientists/philosophers in the first half are wrong i think, theorizing we DON'T see reality as it is, we "invent" parts of it, or borrow from others to fill in blanks - "trans-perspective-ism." But that's just wrong, and finally Richard Dawkins chimes in at about 6:25 and says YES, reality IS REAL. Humans from here, there and farther reaches come to identical conclusions in fields of, e.g., medicine.

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                                  Put another way - why do safari vehicles drive right up near prides of lions? Because lions don't see them. They're aware of them, but they're not food or prey or danger, so they don't "see" them. That's how we've been with many (or perhaps just a few) things around us. And the expansion of what we see/appreciate is a hierarchy that corresponds to a religious type of hierarchy (not Maszlow's).
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                                  Every time I try to explain all this it sounds like gobblledygook. It's just not to me.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by orangeatheist View Post

                                    It's a poll. Polls "classify people". It's what they do.

                                    Devotion to Jesus = a follower of Christ. Followers of Christ are generically called "Christians". Therefore, you would be classified as a "Christian" for the purposes of such a poll. You're not Catholic, therefore you'd fall into the "Protestant" camp, more specifically.

                                    Regardless, Christian numbers as a whole are falling and "none" numbers are rising. I find that good news.
                                    I’m not Protestant. I’m a follower of Jesus Christ. Very flawed poll.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by orangeatheist View Post

                                      Well, if they're "acknowledging Christ with their mouths, but not actions" such folks would still get dropped in this poll's "Christian" bucket. And it's interesting that over time that bucket is holding less and less.
                                      What does the Bible say will happen in the last days? You are actually affirming the Bible.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
                                        I don’t care about religion one way or the other. Whatever floats your yacht.

                                        but it’s embarrassing for someone to be so obsessed and pissed about other peoples faith and religion….who gives a shit OP.
                                        Atheists that hate God. Talk about assbackward thinking.

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by ElwayMD View Post
                                          Not really shocking since we see time and time again people acknowledge Christ with their mouths, but not actions. Hard to sell religion to someone if you don't walk the walk.
                                          I don’t think you understand what a Christian is.

                                          Let’s start you off with John 3:16. Study that.

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                                          • #22
                                            Originally posted by BroncoBuff View Post

                                            No no, Shell is a "Christian" 6 days a week and twice on Sunday.

                                            But me? I am "Religiously unaffiliated," not an atheist. I don't think "other" applies to me, cause "other" connotes something specific, and what I believe is far from specific. I think Muhammad, Jesus, Buddha, Zoroaster (and others) had insights into what this life means, and tried to share those insights. I've read (and read and read) 6+ gospels of Jesus Christ and am left with the unshakable idea that Jesus was telling us we could do what he was doing. It was his followers (and ultimately churches) that chose to frame him as different than us - "above" us (please Shell, don't jump on that. If you read this far, keep on).


                                            To me, this topic is more about DEFINITIONS. Not just the definition of "atheist," but the definitions of "god," and even "belief." My feeling is what we "believe" doesn't matter at all. It IS what it IS, whatever that is, whether we believe it or not. Analogize to the U.S. Navy UFO videos ... I think our 5 puny senses are insufficient to notice, recognize and appreciate that there is more around us than we see, hear, taste and feel, and that the UFOs are simply part of that. They're here and have been here all along, it's just that our 5 senses haven't appreciated their presence - not until we enhanced our senses with, e.g. FLIR - Forward Looking Infrared Radar.

                                            This video discusses some of this with the question "what is reality?" The younger scientists/philosophers in the first half are wrong i think, theorizing we DON'T see reality as it is, we "invent" parts of it, or borrow from others to fill in blanks - "trans-perspective-ism." But that's just wrong, and finally Richard Dawkins chimes in at about 6:25 and says YES, reality IS REAL. Humans from here, there and farther reaches come to identical conclusions in fields of, e.g., medicine.

                                            .


                                            .


                                            Put another way - why do safari vehicles drive right up near prides of lions? Because lions don't see them. They're aware of them, but they're not food or prey or danger, so they don't "see" them. That's how we've been with many (or perhaps just a few) things around us. And the expansion of what we see/appreciate is a hierarchy that corresponds to a religious type of hierarchy (not Maszlow's).
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                                            Every time I try to explain all this it sounds like gobblledygook. It's just not to me.
                                            Do you believe in a Creator?

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                                              What does the Bible say will happen in the last days? You are actually affirming the Bible.
                                              Of course you see it that way. In other threads you've bragged about Christianity being the largest worldwide religion and THAT somehow proves your version of the Bible, too. Nothing can falsify your belief. That's why it's false. That which explains everything explains nothing at all.

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                                                I don’t think you understand what a Christian is.

                                                Let’s start you off with John 3:16. Study that.
                                                So, now you want to define a "Christian" by pointing to a verse you personally identify with while not wanting to be counted among them.

                                                Inconsistency with you is very consistent.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by orangeatheist View Post

                                                  So, now you want to define a "Christian" by pointing to a verse you personally identify with while not wanting to be counted among them.

                                                  Inconsistency with you is very consistent.
                                                  If the poll was do you agree with John 3:16 I could answer that.

                                                  You fixed it!

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