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  • Vic Picks Miami

    Does this mean Evero stays?

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    • #3
      The more I thought about it, the more that bringing Vic back just one year removed from being Head Coach in a relatively disastrous tenure - the more I kept asking "wut da fuk?" I think he will do great in Miami and have them fighting for the AFC East right away.

      Good luck to Vic, no hard feelings, but this team needs to move forward. Evero is fine, he hasn't burned any bridges and everyone loves him. I assume Evero will take another job and we'll be looking again, but Payton should be pretty persuasive in recruiting coaching talent.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by cmhargrove View Post
        The more I thought about it, the more that bringing Vic back just one year removed from being Head Coach in a relatively disastrous tenure - the more I kept asking "wut da fuk?" I think he will do great in Miami and have them fighting for the AFC East right away.

        Good luck to Vic, no hard feelings, but this team needs to move forward. Evero is fine, he hasn't burned any bridges and everyone loves him. I assume Evero will take another job and we'll be looking again, but Payton should be pretty persuasive in recruiting coaching talent.
        I actually think Vic and McDaniel is very odd couple and there will be big culture divide..

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        • #5
          Thank God. Want no part of him in Denver ever again.

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          • #6
            I wonder if Vic signed on condition McDaniel starts Bridgewater next year.

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            • #7
              “Vic picks” sounds disgusting!

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              • #8
                They didn’t want to upset golden loser Just not win Simmons and all his soft loser buddies in the locker rooms

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wolf754life View Post
                  They didn’t want to upset golden loser Just not win Simmons and all his soft loser buddies in the locker rooms
                  **** Fangio.

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                  • #10
                    It's almost like we were in it with him until late in the game. But in the end, we just couldn't stop him from going somewhere else.

                    Like, the whole time, I felt pretty good about it. "We've got this," I thought. "It might end up being a close thing. But I feel pretty confident that he's going to ultimately end up here. We're going to win this thing."

                    But then, right at the end, it's like we didn't have enough to ultimately close the deal. In the end, the Dolphins just had more than we could offer.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DomCasual View Post
                      It's almost like we were in it with him until late in the game. But in the end, we just couldn't stop him from going somewhere else.

                      Like, the whole time, I felt pretty good about it. "We've got this," I thought. "It might end up being a close thing. But I feel pretty confident that he's going to ultimately end up here. We're going to win this thing."

                      But then, right at the end, it's like we didn't have enough to ultimately close the deal. In the end, the Dolphins just had more than we could offer.
                      So, basically like his defense. Close but no cigar.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DomCasual View Post
                        It's almost like we were in it with him until late in the game. But in the end, we just couldn't stop him from going somewhere else.

                        Like, the whole time, I felt pretty good about it. "We've got this," I thought. "It might end up being a close thing. But I feel pretty confident that he's going to ultimately end up here. We're going to win this thing."

                        But then, right at the end, it's like we didn't have enough to ultimately close the deal. In the end, the Dolphins just had more than we could offer.
                        I see what you did there. I think.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post

                          So, basically like his defense. Close but no cigar.
                          his defense was always on E late…due to his bungling of his offense and it’s lack of talent.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wolf754life View Post

                            his defense was always on E late…due to his bungling of his offense and it’s lack of talent.
                            Might have made sense to actually rush Von on obvious passing downs then...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post

                              Might have made sense to actually rush Von on obvious passing downs then...
                              it takes a lot to win in pro football, ie…Football is a complimentary game

                              have fun watching this Defense erode to an indiscriminate unit while Sean the wonder boy whittles away on offense…

                              team goes nowhere without draft picks.

                              ‘’but oh well. When you admit as an organization that you suck at drafting then…**** them picks..

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post

                                So, basically like his defense. Close but no cigar.
                                It's a metaphor, you see?

                                Dolphins fans will understand it a year from now.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by DomCasual View Post

                                  It's a metaphor, you see?

                                  Dolphins fans will understand it a year from now.
                                  I want no part of Fangio ever again. Phins fans will be pissed and poor Chubb.
                                  With that said, if Miami can stay healthy, he should do well given their offensive potential.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by wolf754life View Post

                                    it takes a lot to win in pro football, ie…Football is a complimentary game

                                    have fun watching this Defense erode to an indiscriminate unit while Sean the wonder boy whittles away on offense…

                                    team goes nowhere without draft picks.

                                    ‘’but oh well. When you admit as an organization that you suck at drafting then…**** them picks..
                                    I agree that Elway ****ed up in the draft and the team needs more talent. But we were of a similar talent level with Evero and only had a few additions and we were much better.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by wolf754life View Post
                                      have fun watching this Defense erode to an indiscriminate unit while Sean the wonder boy whittles away on offense…

                                      team goes nowhere without draft picks.
                                      You do realize we got Payton basically for the Bradley Chubb trade right? I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

                                      btw, draft picks crash & burn a lot.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by cousinal11 View Post

                                        You do realize we got Payton basically for the Bradley Chubb trade right? I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

                                        btw, draft picks crash & burn a lot.
                                        I agree, draft picks crash burn a lot but the great franchises find a way to make those picks worthwhile.
                                        The first 1-2 years of Lynch's reign in San Fran and they wanted him gone. He got into a groove, they drafted guys that fit when Kyle needed and it's blossomsed.
                                        Look at Philly, they blew the Reagor pick and still have drafted well enough to be able to flip picks for Brown and overcome that blunder. They have a 1st pick at LT sitting as a 2nd string LT and they still have not let it impact them.

                                        You have to be able to hit on picks and off-set your weaknesses in FA.

                                        That is one reason why, for as much grief as Paton deserves over his moves. He has produced in the draft pretty damn well. The only thing I question is not investing heavily in the OL with premium pick capital.

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post

                                          That is one reason why, for as much grief as Paton deserves over his moves. He has produced in the draft pretty damn well. The only thing I question is not investing heavily in the OL with premium pick capital.
                                          Has to be primary goal to upgrade OL next 8 months. I admit, 2022 was as bad as it gets. Hindsight, new QB (with odd personality), 1st time HC, injuries, etc...the perfect storm. Teams can change overnight these days. Not saying to expect big things in 2023, just trying to look at big picture.

                                          Surely Payton will have plenty to say about our picks, but my memory seems that he can find serious diamonds in the rough.

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                                          • #22
                                            Fangio sucks.
                                            He schemes for stats not wins.

                                            May he never return to the Broncos.

                                            In fact I hope he goes to the Raiders after he makes Miami lose with good D stats. So we can dictate what his Edge rushers do and beat his ass while he gets good stats for his next job.

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by cousinal11 View Post

                                              Has to be primary goal to upgrade OL next 8 months. I admit, 2022 was as bad as it gets. Hindsight, new QB (with odd personality), 1st time HC, injuries, etc...the perfect storm. Teams can change overnight these days. Not saying to expect big things in 2023, just trying to look at big picture.

                                              Surely Payton will have plenty to say about our picks, but my memory seems that he can find serious diamonds in the rough.
                                              At some point, as much as I like that Paton tries to work in cohesion with the HC, he's got to make moves that upgrade the talent level even if it's not something the HC demands.
                                              He felt bad for the injuries at CB under Fangio so he signed Darby, Fuller and drafted Surtain. But no real upgrades along the OL. You want Hackett to succeed so you grab Wilson at QB. But you don't significantly upgrade the OL.

                                              I think we will see a massive invest in the OL in FA and a bit more in the draft and I also believe we are going to see a further investment in the RB corps and possibly the TE room as well.

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                                              • cutthemdown
                                                cutthemdown commented
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                                                WR, RB all need work, but the oline and keeping the defense good should be the focus of this yr. The two 3rd round picks are good spots to grab OG and C. I don't watch enough college to know, but maybe there are some guys we can look at. If feel like OT takes a bit more talent and we may need a trade or FA for that.

                                              • IndelibleScribe
                                                IndelibleScribe commented
                                                Editing a comment
                                                The sweet spot for G and C will be in the 3rd and 4th rounds. You can pick up a starter there. There are some guys who will be available at OT in those rounds as well but that's "We like this guy and want to develop him behind Bolles" type of draft pick. You don't take them to start them unless you have one hell of a OL coach.

                                            • #24
                                              Originally posted by wolf754life View Post
                                              They didn’t want to upset golden loser Just not win Simmons and all his soft loser buddies in the locker rooms
                                              Man, I really try not to get personal but you might actually have CTE. You have spent years railing on Vic and wanted him fired, now you want him back?

                                              Do you even listen to yourself?

                                              you are truly a miserable person and I will always fail to understand why you post on a Broncos fan site. This isn’t good for you.

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                                              • #25
                                                Trolls gonna troll

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