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  • #1

    The Assistant Coach Speculation thread.

    Give me your best lineup before we know. Here's mine:

    OC; Joe Lombardi- don't laugh, he was Payton's QB coach for 5 years before he became the chargers OC. Outten may be a darkhorse, but really don't know.
    QB's- Lombardi maybe, but Kubiak, Jr is fine by me.
    WR: Azzani, but doesn't matter to me.
    RB: I have no idea, and really don't care.
    OL: Munchak, because I got nothing else.
    TE's: Same- Jake Moorland.

    DC- speculation of course is Vic which I'm good with, but Evero makes sense in that if he gets a HC job next year, Broncos get comp picks.

    Secondary: If Vic is coach, don't be surprised if it's Ed Donatell, he's available now.

    All the rest: If it's Vic, it will be his choice who goes, who stays. If Evero, most probably stays.

    S & C staff: Anybody but the guys we have now.
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  • #2
    OL the guy from New Orleans. I think his name is Tom R or something. He has been better than Munchak even.

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    • R8R H8R
      #2.3
      R8R H8R commented
      01-31-2023, 11:54 PM
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      Vegas, Risner is a FA. I really don’t think he will be back.
    • Vegas_Bronco
      #2.4
      Vegas_Bronco commented
      02-01-2023, 12:26 PM
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      I looked up alternatives to Risner and trust me boys, there aren't any really good options in FA. I think he resigns here but he needs to be 'Bolles' fixed.
    • Jeudy10Hamler1
      #2.5
      Jeudy10Hamler1 commented
      02-02-2023, 04:26 PM
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      Risner is not being resigned imo, Paton has been drafting interior linemen just for this type of reason. If Risner didn’t work out and he has not worked out yet then the big massive guards we drafted the last two years time is up!!! On top of whoever we bring in via the draft and free agency
  • #3
    David Shaw worked with Payton in Philly too. I speculated he was being looked at in an assistant role.

    Roushar will probably come in as OL coach and run game coordinator. He’s a phenomenal coach.
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    • Yerner
      #3.1
      Yerner commented
      01-31-2023, 05:30 PM
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      shaw's a head coach. dude has way too much money to take on assistant roles.
    • Aztec Bronco
      #3.2
      Aztec Bronco commented
      01-31-2023, 05:36 PM
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      Some guys just want to coach. He is close with Condi and he’s shown interest in coming back to the NFL.
    • R8R H8R
      #3.3
      R8R H8R commented
      01-31-2023, 05:41 PM
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      I didn't know that Shaw worked with him before. I said in Shaw thread that the best way for him get a HC job is to become a OC or even a QB coach first. If he's really good, he can be a HC in 3 years or less, imo.
  • #4
    I can't come up with a complete line-up, but I have a few names in mind.

    Joe DeCamillis returning as ST coordinator; no previous experience with Payton, but he is the type of veteran coach well known around the league that Payton might recruit to make ST respectable again.

    Curtis Johnson as an offensive assistant, perhaps WRs coach. He is 61 but was part of Payton's staff from 2017-2021.

    Zach Strief is currently the assistant OL coach in New Orleans. Similar to Chris Kuper, he might be ready to make the move to OL coach.

    I don't think Evero really wants to stay in Denver, but he is under contract. Former player Bryan Young has been as assistant coach with the Saints since 2009 and is currently their pass-rush specialist. Maybe he is a candidate to take the DC job if Payton does not end up with Evero or Fangio.
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    • #5
      Originally posted by -Rod- View Post
      I can't come up with a complete line-up, but I have a few names in mind.

      Joe DeCamillis returning as ST coordinator; no previous experience with Payton, but he is the type of veteran coach well known around the league that Payton might recruit to make ST respectable again.

      Curtis Johnson as an offensive assistant, perhaps WRs coach. He is 61 but was part of Payton's staff from 2017-2021.

      Zach Strief is currently the assistant OL coach in New Orleans. Similar to Chris Kuper, he might be ready to make the move to OL coach.

      I don't think Evero really wants to stay in Denver, but he is under contract. Former player Bryan Young has been as assistant coach with the Saints since 2009 and is currently their pass-rush specialist. Maybe he is a candidate to take the DC job if Payton does not end up with Evero or Fangio.
      Damn it, I forgot to add him. I thought he would be a great one if Rosburg doesn't take it. Many don't know he is the son in law of the late Dan Reeves.

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      • #6
        Joe D should have stuck around in Denver but of course Elway couldn’t get along with him.

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        • R8R H8R
          #6.1
          R8R H8R commented
          01-31-2023, 06:46 PM
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          I think you're right. Was very loyal to Kubes, though.
      • #7
        I want to see Penner pay the coordinators head coach money, ala Marvin Lewis as DC back in the day with Washington. If Evero doesn't get a head coaching job, you show him your appreciation with the checkbook.

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        • #8
          Originally posted by The Shovel View Post
          I want to see Penner pay the coordinators head coach money, ala Marvin Lewis as DC back in the day with Washington. If Evero doesn't get a head coaching job, you show him your appreciation with the checkbook.
          That's pretty much only what Mayo, Johnson and Quinn now?
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          • #9
            We have to have speed and size in the middle of the D. Else we're screwed. We cursed ourselves by letting Danny Trevathan walk. Finally, got Singleton and people give the success to Evero. Just sign Singleton.
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            • #10
              I thought Vic went to Miami for DC.??🤷

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              • R8R H8R
                #10.1
                R8R H8R commented
                01-31-2023, 08:07 PM
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                He has not finalized it. He may go to SF or here.
            • #11
              Originally posted by BamaBronco16 View Post
              I thought Vic went to Miami for DC.??🤷
              Prematurely reported. I’m guessing with the Payton to Denver news imminent, he held off on signing with Miami.

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              • #12
                I'm not sure about a Vic redux.

                Felt like his defenses here never made the big stops when needed

                I know all about the stats, redzone % and all that. Just never got that lights out feeling with his defenses.
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                • winstoncup bronco
                  #12.2
                  winstoncup bronco commented
                  01-31-2023, 09:27 PM
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                  I seem to remember a number of times where we gave up the lead on last possession. It was never a slam the door defense.
                • gunns
                  #12.3
                  gunns commented
                  01-31-2023, 10:50 PM
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                  Exactly WB, on the post and comment
                • darryn16
                  #12.4
                  darryn16 commented
                  02-01-2023, 03:56 PM
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                  True, but he also had to deal with being a HC for the first time, so he couldn't devote all of his time to the defense. As DC that's all he needs to focus on.
              • #13
                I just heard Derek Wolfe call Fangio a defensive genius, and would love to have him back. And there is a huge difference between Fangio on the sideline which he never did before Denver, and Fangio upstairs in the booth.

                The thing is his girlfriend is allegedly from the SF area, and the 49ers are loaded defensively, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he goes there.

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                • #14
                  i would rather have 5 years of fangio then one more from EE. What if Eviro leaves anyway, they won't make him stay if he wants out, who do we get if not Fangio?
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                  • #15
                    Originally posted by R8R H8R View Post
                    Give me your best lineup before we know. Here's mine:

                    OC; Joe Lombardi- don't laugh, he was Payton's QB coach for 5 years before he became the chargers OC. Outten may be a darkhorse, but really don't know.
                    QB's- Lombardi maybe, but Kubiak, Jr is fine by me.
                    WR: Azzani, but doesn't matter to me.
                    RB: I have no idea, and really don't care.
                    OL: Munchak, because I got nothing else.
                    TE's: Same- Jake Moorland.

                    DC- speculation of course is Vic which I'm good with, but Evero makes sense in that if he gets a HC job next year, Broncos get comp picks.

                    Secondary: If Vic is coach, don't be surprised if it's Ed Donatell, he's available now.

                    All the rest: If it's Vic, it will be his choice who goes, who stays. If Evero, most probably stays.

                    S & C staff: Anybody but the guys we have now.
                    Why would we want Donatell back either. There's a reason he only lasted one season with Minnesota. He was a wasted position when he was here with Fangio. He's like Rick Dennison. Isn't good but follows Fangio wherever he goes like Dennison did with Kubiak.

                    Don't know much about Lombardi but from what I do see he hasn't done much and what he has done has been mediocre at best. This is the scary part now that we have a coach.

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                    • #16
                      Originally posted by gunns View Post

                      Why would we want Donatell back either. There's a reason he only lasted one season with Minnesota. He was a wasted position when he was here with Fangio. He's like Rick Dennison. Isn't good but follows Fangio wherever he goes like Dennison did with Kubiak.

                      Don't know much about Lombardi but from what I do see he hasn't done much and what he has done has been mediocre at best. This is the scary part now that we have a coach.
                      If Payton wants Fangio, I want him. As I said, if Fangio is DC, don’t be surprised if Donatell is also back as secondary coach. Donatell is a superb secondary coach, but a lousy DC. As I said in the OP, I’m good with Evero staying, but that’s up to Payton. HC gets to pick his staff, that’s the way it works.

                      Regarding Lombardi, he has been with Payton since 2007, and was Drew Brees QB coach for 5 years b4 getting the SD job. I don’t give a shit how that went. If he’s the OC, and I have no idea if he will be, he will do exactly what Payton tells him to do.

                      The title of the thread is “Assistant coach speculation thread.” That’s what I am doing, speculating. Why don’t you post your choices instead of just telling us who you don’t want.

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                      • #17
                        My guesses for offensive staff would be

                        OC/QB - Joe Brady
                        OL - Zach Strief
                        RB - ???
                        WR - Curtis Johnson
                        TE - Dan Roushar​
                        ST - Phil Galiano

                        Not sure on RB coach. Roushar has coached OL, TE and RB.

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                        • #18
                          Originally posted by R8R H8R View Post

                          If Payton wants Fangio, I want him. As I said, if Fangio is DC, don’t be surprised if Donatell is also back as secondary coach. Donatell is a superb secondary coach, but a lousy DC. As I said in the OP, I’m good with Evero staying, but that’s up to Payton. HC gets to pick his staff, that’s the way it works.

                          Regarding Lombardi, he has been with Payton since 2007, and was Drew Brees QB coach for 5 years b4 getting the SD job. I don’t give a shit how that went. If he’s the OC, and I have no idea if he will be, he will do exactly what Payton tells him to do.

                          The title of the thread is “Assistant coach speculation thread.” That’s what I am doing, speculating. Why don’t you post your choices instead of just telling us who you don’t want.
                          I'm well aware of the way it works. Doesn't always make it right, especially when you are aware of what that person has done, or not done, previously. I stated when the whole coach search started that I would not state who I wanted. It seems to be a curse when I do. I also stated I would state who I didn't want. And that's what I've done. I'm sorry if it doesn't go along with your beliefs but I post what I want to, just like you do.

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                          • #19
                            Mark Schlereth going to be the new offensive line coach!

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                            • #20
                              Originally posted by Aztec Bronco View Post
                              Joe D should have stuck around in Denver but of course Elway couldn’t get along with him.
                              Elways couldn’t get along with anyone anymore. The craziest I heard was when Jack Del Rio put his ass through a locker in the locker room back in 2014. I wonder how that all went and what was actually said to escalate it.
                              Last edited by Sam; 02-01-2023, 04:33 AM.

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                              • R8R H8R
                                #20.1
                                R8R H8R commented
                                02-01-2023, 05:00 AM
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                                That was a bullshit story that raider fans started.
                              • bowtown
                                #20.2
                                bowtown commented
                                02-01-2023, 05:16 AM
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                                Del Rio is a POS.
                              • DD55
                                #20.3
                                DD55 commented
                                02-01-2023, 08:52 AM
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                                You would have heard the story from former players like Wolfe.
                            • #21
                              He was OL coach for saints 2016-2020, and te’s & running game coordinator last 2 years.

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                              • #22
                                Originally posted by R8R H8R View Post
                                He was OL coach for saints 2016-2020, and te’s & running game coordinator last 2 years.
                                Would be a huge get.

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                                • #23
                                  So I’m seeing a bid war for Fangio if they try to get him. SF no doubt will try. Fangio went to Santa Clara multiple times during the season and watched practices etc…I know Bosa has been outspoken about not liking 3-4 and wants a hand on the ground. Fangio does run 4 up front on nickels.

                                  which HC wants him more Payton or Kyle.

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                                  • Mozzafiato
                                    #23.1
                                    Mozzafiato commented
                                    02-01-2023, 12:18 PM
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                                    I’d think SF has the edge unless he likes Payton more.
                                • #24
                                  I am soooo fn tired of watching defenders split our double-team efforts on O line. This isn't just a Broncos issue, it's a league-wide issue. Offensive line play has been atrocious for the past 4 years and league-wide it is terrible. It aint that hard, find a defensive guy and put a hat on him. WE HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD OLINE COACH.

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                                  • Old Coyote
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                                    Old Coyote commented
                                    02-02-2023, 07:14 PM
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                                    O-line is hard if you keep changing schemes and coaches. Now that we have a stable coach our GM will know what kind of scheme they will play in and he can get the guy that matches instead of grabbing jack of all trades Linemen we can get guys that kick ass at our scheme but suck at others.
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