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  • Hire Gruden

    and I will dump the Raiders and become a Donkey Fan

  • #2
    It'll never happen but I'd support this 100%. If we can't lure any of the top candidates we should absolutely bring Chucky in

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    • #3
      He's better than the coaches we put out there lately.

      ​​​​​​And he probably does not like the Raiders anymore, so that is acceptable too.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Old Coyote View Post
        He's better than the coaches we put out there lately.

        ​​​​​​And he probably does not like the Raiders anymore, so that is acceptable too.
        Raiders didn't do anything to him but Gruden is gonna expose alot of stuff when he goes to court about the NFL

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        • #5
          I am OK with it.. not sure if we go with the route.

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          • #6
            No.

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            • #7
              He said mean things that were true in a private email 10 years ago. The owner group is a who’s who of woke whackjobs.. taint happenin

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              • #8
                **** off

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                • #9
                  Who’s more overrated? Bill Cower or Jon Gruden?

                  Gruden was with Oak/LV 4 yrs, didn’t have to “fix” a QB, and never did better than 8-8. If you want to use the lack of defense as an excuse, well, that’s his fault also for misusing all the picks they got for Mack.

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                  • #10
                    holy crap is chucky overated as a coach....get him on TV somewhere so I can LMAO again

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                    • #11
                      About as overrated as Payton

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                      • #12
                        Chucky would dial them up for Wilson and make him worth the money the Donks paid for him.

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                        • #13
                          I’m pretty sure Chucky is done making money in the NFL. Blackballed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fireball View Post
                            I’m pretty sure Chucky is done making money in the NFL. Blackballed.
                            No he will collect much more money from the NFL when it's all said and done and if they don't pay him off alot more people will be exposed.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RaidersRock View Post

                              Raiders didn't do anything to him but Gruden is gonna expose alot of stuff when he goes to court about the NFL
                              Cant wait and so is Dan Synder.

                              Dan Snyder called them a mafia, you know what that means, he’s implying that some of these games are fixed and I guess it is not impossible to do. All you only need a handful of referees to get the job done but it’ll be interesting to see how far it goes. lol

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by RaidersRock View Post

                                No he will collect much more money from the NFL when it's all said and done and if they don't pay him off alot more people will be exposed.
                                You think they’re going to pay him!

                                In old-school mafia terms, they could “whack him” or if you watch Yellowstone, “take him to the train station”. 😂😂😂

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Sam View Post

                                  Cant wait and so is Dan Synder.

                                  Dan Snyder called them a mafia, you know what that means, he’s implying that some of these games are fixed and I guess it is not impossible to do. All you only need a handful of referees to get the job done but it’ll be interesting to see how far it goes. lol
                                  Sometimes you have to wonder. Some teams always seem to get game changing PI and roughing the passer calls in the 4th quarter to keep drives alive. New England back in the Brady era is the most obvious that comes to mind. KC gets their fair share of questionable game changing calls.

                                  Then there’s the obvious penalties that don’t draw a flag like the PI Vinovich’s crew missed in the 4th quarter of the 2012 divisional playoff game against the Ravens. Saints getting screwed in the 2019 NFC championship initiated the rule change for challenging PI.

                                  I hope it’s just human error, but they may have a much larger problem.
                                  Last edited by Fireball; 12-31-2022, 09:21 AM.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Fireball View Post

                                    Sometimes you have to wonder. Some teams always seem to get game changing PI and roughing the passer calls in the 4th quarter to keep drives alive. New England back in the Brady era is the most obvious that comes to mind. KC gets their fair share of questionable game changing calls.

                                    Then there’s the obvious penalties that don’t draw a flag like the PI Vinovich’s crew missed in the 4th quarter of the 2012 divisional playoff game against the Ravens. Saints getting screwed in the 2019 NFC championship initiated the rule change for challenging PI.

                                    I hope it’s just human error, but I they may have a much larger problem.
                                    That 2012 game against the ravens seem to like it was decided in advance the minute Ray Lewis announced his retirement. I’ve always felt that way about the situation but the minute the guy said he was retiring it’s like the league decided to put a ring on his finger.

                                    I’m not gonna say a too much about his past, but it seems to me like he got away with something very very wrong earlier in his career because the league felt he was one of their wonder boys.
                                    Last edited by Sam; 12-31-2022, 09:25 AM.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Sam View Post

                                      That 2012 game against the ravens seem to like it was decided in advance. The minute Ray Lewis announced his retirement. I’ve always felt that way about the situation but the minute the guy said he was retiring it’s like the league decided to put a ring on his finger.

                                      I’m not gonna say a too much about his past, but it seems to me like he got away with something very very wrong earlier in his career because the league felt he was one of their wonder boys.
                                      I feel the same way. I left the stadium that evening pissed off, frozen, and full of doubt about the NFL’s integrity.

                                      That was a terrible weekend all around. We were headed to a Nuggets game the night before and a crack head pulled a knife on me while walking down the 16th Street mall. Dude was screaming “**** you, I’m going to kill you” on a crowded street and everyone ignored it and acted like nothing was happening. Made me question my faith in humanity.
                                      Last edited by Fireball; 12-31-2022, 09:32 AM.

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                                      • Old Coyote
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                                        That's when I pull out my trusty pocket knife and scream out "Thank you Grandfather's! I have been waiting so long to earn my feather so I can die and go to the spirit world with honor. Come at me colonial, today one of us will die like a real man."

                                        They usually go "**** this" and run away.

                                        Alternatively, you can just start coughing like crazy and smile like psycho and go, "I'll bite you and I got Aids" that usually makes em run away too.

                                    • #20
                                      Originally posted by Fireball View Post

                                      I feel the same way. I left the stadium that evening pissed off, frozen, and full of doubt about the NFL’s integrity.

                                      That was a terrible weekend all around. We were headed to a Nuggets game the night before and a crack head pulled a knife on me while walking down the 16th Street mall. Dude was screaming “**** you, I’m going to kill you” on a crowded street and everyone ignored it and acted like nothing was happening. Made me question my faith in humanity.
                                      Really! And Since when does Joe Flacco out dual PFM!
                                      If not for the pass interference calls, they never win that game and Raheem “The dream” Moore just happened to be the unlucky guy that got cold and beat, but had he not gotten beat that sure would’ve ruined the NFL’s plans.
                                      Last edited by Sam; 12-31-2022, 09:46 AM.

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                                      • #21
                                        Originally posted by Sam View Post
                                        Really! And Since when does Joe Flacco out dual PFM!
                                        If not for the pass interference calls, they never win that game and Raheem “The dream” Moore just happened to be the unlucky guy that got cold and beat, but had he not gotten beat that sure would’ve ruined the NFL’s plans.
                                        Raheem got all the bad press and was memed to the end of the earth for missing so terribly on that Flacco moon ball.

                                        Vinovich’s officiating was the real story and it was never mentioned in the media as far as I can remember. I’d have to look up the stats, but Vinovich had a track record of ****ing over Manning and the Broncos.

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                                        • #22
                                          Dungy built the Buccaneers from nothing and had them in the playoffs every year. Chucky won the SB with that team in his first year. That's the last playoff game he's ever won. He missed the playoffs four times, brought that team down to mediocrity, and was fired. He went to the booth for a decade and the legend of Chucky grew from that one SB twenty years ago.

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