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    According to a Sunday night court filing by federal prosecutors, that includes secret witness interviews by law enforcement and internal communications between House committee staff members. The Justice Department claims this material that, were it exposed to the public, would cause “specific harms” like “witness tampering” or making it impossible to find impartial jurors at a future trial.

    In a court filing on Tuesday, Bannon’s lawyers said the government’s argument was “festooned with hyperbole… perhaps designed to score points with the media.” That same day, a “press coalition” of 15 news organizations—including Buzzfeed, CNN, and The Washington Post—sided with Bannon and asked the judge overseeing the case to make documents available and reject what it called “this broad gag order.”

    From there the Daily Beast goes left in its reporting insinuating what Bannon is doing is illegal. But is it?

    Americans deserve to know what actions Congress took before, during, and after the January 6th protest at the Capitol. Why are Congress and the DOJ withholding information from those they prosecute who have every right to this information? What is the government withholding videotapes from that day, for example?
    Americans deserve the truth. Bannon is right to ask for it. Congress was wrong to create a corrupt committee whose only purpose is to destroy Trump loyalists while ignoring the truth.



    Steve Bannon is pressuring the corrupt Jan 6 committee to open their books.  All of America wants to know why the corrupt committee is not looking into the 2020 Election and passes on the thousands of crimes committed in that election to frame Trump loyalists as violent. The Daily Beast, a far-left publication, put out…

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    Our corrupt DOJ is a runaway politically-motivated train indicting innocent Americans on crimes they know these Americans never committed.  The Gateway Pundit has uncovered damning information with the DOJ’s  Jan 6 indictments. On February 19, the DOJ arrested six individuals who were members of the Oathkeepers related to the Capitol protest on Jan 6. Here…

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    • #3
      Weird.

      A handful of Oath Keepers mentioned in the article [who were indicted] have already plead guilty to the charge of conspiracy (and/or others). They are also cooperating with federal investigators who are in the process of obtaining more information in an on-going criminal investigation for those who will eventually see trial after their not guilty pleas.

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      • #4
        Charged with intent to commit a crime...

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        • #5
          It is not customary for law enforcement agencies to release information/evidence while an investigation is active and ongoing.

          But again, many of the individuals who have been charged with criminal activity and are awaiting trial -- have admitted what they did (prevent and/or delay certification of the election results) and why. I guess confessions = "no evidence" now?

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          • #6
            Discovery rules require prosecutors to disclose evidence and like materials to defendants prior to their trial. Some of these people have pleaded not guilty to various charges. They are awaiting trial.

            No evidence exists? LMAO.

            A bit about that evidence:

            Eugene Rossi, a lawyer for riot defendant William Isaacs, said prosecutors had deluged defense lawyers with an "avalanche of documents" like the flow "out of a fire hydrant." He said so far 90,572 documents had been turned over to defendants as well as days full of video recordings.
            Please tell me where and why the government/prosecution are under any obligation to release that information to the public (so we all know it) before the trial occurs.

            But of course, I wouldn't expect the Gateway Pundit (or OP) to understand basic steps in the criminal justice process.

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            • #7
              The supposedly nonexistent evidence = video of the individuals actively committing felonies as well as admitting their actions and motivations to the FBI.

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              • #8
                The people who pleaded guilty in their respective cases aren't going to go to trial. They are awaiting their sentencing. They are cooperating with the ongoing investigation (United States v. Thomas Caldwell, et al.) which is the government's major conspiracy case against the group. Let's take a look at one of the guys who plead guilty and is helping out the prosecution:

                His story is here.

                In his statement of offense, Grods admits to bringing firearms to Washington, D.C., and then stashing them across the Potomac River at a Virginia hotel — a detail the government says buttresses its argument that the Oath Keepers prepared for violence on Jan. 6.

                The government alleges the group planned to store weapons in Virginia and ferry them into Washington, D.C., on Jan. 6 if the situation in the city got messy.

                Grods' statement of offense says on Jan. 6, he rode in a golf cart with others through the city before parking a few blocks away from the Capitol and walking the rest of the way. He then linked up with other alleged Oath Keepers, who forged their way through the crowd, up the steps of the Capitol in a military-style "stack" formation and into the building itself.

                Other members of the "stack" have been charged in the Oath Keepers conspiracy case.

                Four minutes after entering the Capitol, the statement of offense says, Grods left the building as police shot pepper balls at a wall near him.

                Two days after the assault on the Capitol, an unnamed individual told Grods to "make sure that all signal comms about the op has been deleted and burned," according to the statement of offense, which Grods confirmed he had done.
                Yep. Sounds like it's all made up. No evidence? Totally false! 😂

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blueflame View Post
                  The supposedly nonexistent evidence = video of the individuals actively committing felonies as well as admitting their actions and motivations to the FBI.
                  I guess it's really hard to defend yourself when you are caught on camera and have to fess up. Woops!

                  At least some of these Oath Keepers are smart enough to know when to cut their losses. Definitely a better idea than doubling down by lying to federal officials and getting more prison time. 🤭

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Requiem View Post

                    I guess it's really hard to defend yourself when you are caught on camera and have to fess up. Woops!

                    At least some of these Oath Keepers are smart enough to know when to cut their losses. Definitely a better idea than doubling down by lying to federal officials and getting more prison time. 🤭
                    The conspiracy charges carry the potential for a 20-year stint in prison, so yeah -- they probably are rolling over on the "bigger fish"...

                    And meanwhile -- outside the Gateway Pundit fact-free zone --

                    “We are making rapid progress. We anticipate next year, we will be conducting multiple weeks of public hearings, setting out for the American people in vivid color exactly what happened, every minute of the day on Jan. 6, here at the Capitol and at the White House, and what led to that violent attack,” said Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., at a hearing of the House Rules Committee.
                    'In vivid color': Liz Cheney says weeks of Jan. 6 hearings are coming

                    https://news.yahoo.com/in-vivid-colo...180614071.html
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Blueflame View Post
                      The conspiracy charges carry the potential for a 20-year stint in prison, so yeah -- they probably are rolling over on the "bigger fish"...
                      Smart move!

                      And meanwhile -- outside the Gateway Pundit fact-free zone --

                      'In vivid color': Liz Cheney says weeks of Jan. 6 hearings are coming

                      https://news.yahoo.com/in-vivid-colo...180614071.html
                      Color me a bit surprised that Liz Cheney became one of the leading voices of sanity in the GOP on such matters (and other things). Refreshing!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Blueflame View Post
                        It is not customary for law enforcement agencies to release information/evidence while an investigation is active and ongoing.

                        But again, many of the individuals who have been charged with criminal activity and are awaiting trial -- have admitted what they did (prevent and/or delay certification of the election results) and why. I guess confessions = "no evidence" now?
                        Anyone under enough duress will confess. Especially frontline citizens with much to lose.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                          Anyone under enough duress will confess. Especially frontline citizens with much to lose.
                          Did they also falsify the videos they took of themselves committing felonies -- videos that they then proudly posted on their social media pages?

                          Real-time video of the crime + a confession makes it very difficult to do much beyond seeking a plea bargain. Those who did that face self-provided irrefutable proof of their own guilt. And when that crime is a felony, then that individual has effectively taken away their own guns.

                          It sounds to me like Rep. Cheney has promised us a full public accounting of the events of January 6, which is good. We all deserve to know exactly what happened, how it happened, and who bankrolled it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

                            Did they also falsify the videos they took of themselves committing felonies -- videos that they then proudly posted on their social media pages?

                            Real-time video of the crime + a confession makes it very difficult to do much beyond seeking a plea bargain. Those who did that face self-provided irrefutable proof of their own guilt. And when that crime is a felony, then that individual has effectively taken away their own guns.

                            It sounds to me like Rep. Cheney has promised us a full public accounting of the events of January 6, which is good. We all deserve to know exactly what happened, how it happened, and who bankrolled it.
                            Bottom line is I don’t have enough time in the day to investigate every person that showed up. It’s like everything else. There is a MSM narrative. That’s what you think is truth. Not very many people believe MSM, or the government agencies anymore. I’m one of them.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                              Bottom line is I don’t have enough time in the day to investigate every person that showed up. It’s like everything else. There is a MSM narrative. That’s what you think is truth. Not very many people believe MSM, or the government agencies anymore. I’m one of them.
                              How about this guy? On video assaulting police and identified because of a unique tattoo.

                              The FBI has arrested a Donald Trump supporter from Michigan who was captured on video attacking law enforcement officers at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 and whose identity was confirmed with the help of a “**** YOU” tattoo on the middle finger of his left hand.


                              Justin Jersey of Michigan ― who was No. 106 on the FBI’s Capitol wanted page and known to online “Sedition Hunters” as #Fingerman ― was charged by indictment for his role in the Capitol attack.
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                              Online sleuths found an Instagram image of Jersey that showed what appeared to be a “**** YOU” tattoo on his left middle finger — which can also be spotted in images of him swinging a stick at officers — erasing any doubt about the identification.
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                              Jersey, according to a court filing, is charged with assaulting, resisting or impeding certain officers using a dangerous weapon; civil disorder; entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds; disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds; engaging in physical violence in a restricted building or grounds; and violent entry and disorderly conduct in a capitol building or grounds.
                              FBI Arrests Capitol Rioter With The Help Of The 'F**k You' Tattoo On His Middle Finger

                              https://www.huffpost.com/entry/finge...b025be1af50402

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

                                How about this guy? On video assaulting police and identified because of a unique tattoo.



                                FBI Arrests Capitol Rioter With The Help Of The 'F**k You' Tattoo On His Middle Finger

                                https://www.huffpost.com/entry/finge...b025be1af50402
                                So if thousands show up to peacefully protest all you need is one. And, it just says Trump supporter. You are just believing the news sources that confirm what you already concluded. To be fair, so am I.

                                I can tell you I know thousands of Trump supporters that are small business, country, veterans, etc.

                                You know the guy that just ran over people was an anti-trump person right?

                                The media is all about worthless.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Shellback88 View Post

                                  So if thousands show up to peacefully protest all you need is one. And, it just says Trump supporter. You are just believing the news sources that confirm what you already concluded. To be fair, so am I.

                                  I can tell you I know thousands of Trump supporters that are small business, country, veterans, etc.

                                  You know the guy that just ran over people was an anti-trump person right?

                                  The media is all about worthless.
                                  There was nothing peaceful about January 6, Shellback. They were told to "fight like hell" and that's what they were prepared to do; violently breaking windows and using makeshift weapons while assaulting police who were doing their jobs -- but in the way of their goal (entering the Capitol and delaying/preventing Congress from certifying the election results). They would have physically attacked anyone or anything that was in the way of attaining their goal.

                                  If their Trump hats, clothing, and flags weren't enough to identify them as Trump supporters, then once they've been identified (via their own videos), a glance at their social media pages (which law enforcement always checks) makes it obvious which Presidential candidate they supported. It's not exactly a newsflash that people overshare on their social media pages.

                                  In short, I'm believing the individuals' own words, videos, and social media pages regarding who they are and why they were at the Capitol. Not the media.

                                  The guy that just ran over people? I don't defend him. He is a criminal who needs to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law and I would not oppose prosecutors seeking the death penalty in his case.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

                                    How about this guy? On video assaulting police and identified because of a unique tattoo.



                                    FBI Arrests Capitol Rioter With The Help Of The 'F**k You' Tattoo On His Middle Finger

                                    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/finge...b025be1af50402
                                    "Fingerman" 😂

                                    Just one of the 700 or so people they have arrested and have brought charges against to date. Lots more to come!



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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Blueflame View Post
                                      The guy that just ran over people? I don't defend him. He is a criminal who needs to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.
                                      That's because you are able to approach things with honesty and integrity—and know right from wrong. Your counterpart in such discussions doesn't and has never had any interest (here or elsewhere) of holding Trump or anyone associated with him accountable for their wrongdoings.

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                                      • #20
                                        Highly recommend watching Always sunny in Phillys first episode of season 15 that just aired.

                                        Creative way of putting themselves at all major events of 2020.



                                        That show never disappoints.

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
                                          Highly recommend watching Always sunny in Phillys first episode of season 15 that just aired.

                                          Creative way of putting themselves at all major events of 2020.



                                          That show never disappoints.

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                                          Had no idea that show was still going strong. Nice!

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                                          • #22
                                            Originally posted by Requiem View Post

                                            Had no idea that show was still going strong. Nice!
                                            I won’t give it all away but Charlie made the Viking dudes outfit out of dead raccoons from under the bar. Lol

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
                                              I won’t give it all away but Charlie made the Viking dudes outfit out of dead raccoons from under the bar. Lol
                                              I'll have to check it out. Honestly don't watch much TV to begin with, but thanks for the heads up! I haven't watched seasons of that show regularly for a long time, but it was a staple during my college years. Who doesn't love Charlie?!

                                              I guess you are kind of like the Orange Huddle's version of Charlie!

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                                              • #24
                                                LOL. BibleBot is The Huddle’s version of Alex Jones (or Mike Lindell?)

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by Requiem View Post

                                                  I'll have to check it out. Honestly don't watch much TV to begin with, but thanks for the heads up! I haven't watched seasons of that show regularly for a long time, but it was a staple during my college years. Who doesn't love Charlie?!

                                                  I guess you are kind of like the Orange Huddle's version of Charlie!

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                                                  Wildcard!! One of the best Charlie moments was Mac getting him to eat his first pear at a gypsy market. Gold!

                                                  They have the seasons on Hulu I think. I recommend watching them in order from where you left off since a lot of episodes reference past adventures.

                                                  another favorite is trying out for the eagles and “Donavan McNabb” shows up.

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