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  • THE STATUS QUO

    Such a perfect line to sum up Hackett. The status quo for 7 years now continues.





    Panthers improved when they fired their HC. They changed the status quo. Colts win a game the week they change their HC for a retired player with no experience….


    Paton chooses the status quo. Which is 16 points or less. Embarrassing losses with zero offensive identity.


    status quo next game. 13 total points.

    when the media and fans can see red flags that the GM cannot, fire the ****ing GM.

  • #2
    Paton gave the team a terminal disease.

    Georgiano needs to be terminated…

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    • #3
      I know some of you remember when KC fans actually got together and paid for an airplane to fly over the stadium demanind the team fire Scott Piolli. I am sure Denver fans delighted in teh folly that was Chiefs football back then.

      I remember those times and this in many ways reminds me of those times.

      There were a couple major differences, but first....you all ought to get together and rent an airplane with a banner. The owners will see it. The media will see it. It will be talked about. It's alot of bang for your bucks.

      Thats said...there are some differences -

      The Hunt family hired Piolli, not some prior owner...it's true Clark was new to leading the ownership group, but Piolli was his hire..the first major move of his tenure as chairman, was firing Carl Peterson and hiring Piolli.

      Clark is a reasonably patient man and he gave Piolli the time and resources to mold the team the way he wanted. Including a second coaching hire.

      Now, the thing about that second hire that Piolli was allowed to make...it ended up being Romeo Crennel because by this time Piolli was someone no credible coach wanted to be around, and Piolli had hitched his wagon to Matt Cassel also. That's how you end up with Crennel as the hire.

      IF PATON is the man making the hire, you are going to end up with someone like Mike Caldwell or Eric Bienemy as HC..guys that are old and want back in, or guys who at this point will take ANY HC job they can becasue they've been rejected over and over. You won't get high quality candidates.

      Also, sidenote...Peyton Manning never really considered coming to KC as a FA due in part to Piolli being a giant douchbag. So, having a poisonous FO situation costs you in multiple ways.

      Clark Hunt may or may not have been swayed by the airplane thing, but he wasn't blind....he could see that status quo was a dead end and fortunately Clark understood that he needed someone who KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING to come in and right the ship. Hunt personally flew to Philly to meat with Ried (not the other way around) and got that done.

      This is why moving on from BOTH Paton and Hackett need to happen. Hackett can't be the guy to hire the next coach or you won't be getting good candidates. Hackett won't have any credibility, and lacking the confidence of the fans, the owners, the players....it will be that much harder to get everyone to buy into his program to get out of the hole. He's got to go, or at BEST, be releagated to the new coaches gopher. He can still scout, make minor moves, etc, but the new coach is no.1 on teh hierarchy and final decision maker.

      Sean Payton aint answering to Paton the GM.

      Also, I've said it before...but it's like a bonus for KC to be constantly at the top, competing for titles year in and year out while at the same time the Broncos have descended to depths rivaling KC circa 2012. I wouldn't have thought a proud franchise like the Denver Broncos could ever become a complete circus with an actual real live clown at head coach, and a QB go off a cliff while being completely oblivious to how bad his contrived and crafted image and branding comes off. The entertainment value is off the charts.

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      • #4
        Zero.


        Broncos fanbase isn’t new to this. McDaniels HC/GM era saw massive demands from the fanbase. There were websites catered to the firing of McDaniels.


        he was dumped mid season.


        I fully expect Paton to stay one more year..2024 will be the start of a long rebuild.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
          Zero.


          Broncos fanbase isn’t new to this. McDaniels HC/GM era saw massive demands from the fanbase. There were websites catered to the firing of McDaniels.


          he was dumped mid season.


          I fully expect Paton to stay one more year..2024 will be the start of a long rebuild.
          If Paton stays one more year he might as well stay the duration of his contract. Do you suppose he gets to make a coaching hire THEN gets fired one year after that? That doesn't make sense.

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          • #6
            It’s extremely rare for a first year head coach to be fired mid season. About the only time it happens is when there’s some kind of scandal (Urban Meyer). Nobody should be surprised if he’s not fired until the end of the season.

            With that being said, it’s pretty wild how much of a disaster Hackett has been, crazy to be verging on Urban Meyer territory.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tangerine View Post
              It’s extremely rare for a first year head coach to be fired mid season. About the only time it happens is when there’s some kind of scandal (Urban Meyer). Nobody should be surprised if he’s not fired until the end of the season.

              With that being said, it’s pretty wild how much of a disaster Hackett has been, crazy to be verging on Urban Meyer territory.
              I’ve never seen this level of incompetence in a Broncos head coach. It’s been evident since the first game. I’m not sure waiting until the end of the season to fire him benefits anyone. Pretty soon the defense is going to stop playing their hearts out and the blowouts will happen. Like I wrote previously, what you permit you promote.

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              • #8
                It won’t be a plane. It will be a billboard calling for Rypien to be made the starter. 😲

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post
                  Zero.


                  Broncos fanbase isn’t new to this. McDaniels HC/GM era saw massive demands from the fanbase. There were websites catered to the firing of McDaniels.


                  he was dumped mid season.


                  I fully expect Paton to stay one more year..2024 will be the start of a long rebuild.
                  The Raiders have come out and said ownership has guaranteed McDaniels 2023. I'm sorry but I don't want to be as dumb as the Raiders with Hackett.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mile High Salute View Post
                    It won’t be a plane. It will be a billboard calling for Rypien to be made the starter. 😲
                    Rypien sucks worse than Wilson. Paton screwed this team hardcore.

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                    • #11

                      Somebody might be getting fired Monday

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                      • #12
                        Keep Paton but fire Hackett and Outten now then promote Kubiak to interim HC and Azzanni to OC.

                        End of season promote Evero to HC and let him pick his DC and bring in Darrell Bevell as OC.

                        Evero is a leader and keeping that defense completely in tact is a good idea.

                        Bevell knows Russ better than anyone in the coaching world. He is the reason Seattle drafted Russ in the first place and he's a great option to get Russ back on track.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Allen_C View Post
                          Keep Paton but fire Hackett and Outten now then promote Kubiak to interim HC and Azzanni to OC.

                          End of season promote Evero to HC and let him pick his DC and bring in Darrell Bevell as OC.

                          Evero is a leader and keeping that defense completely in tact is a good idea.

                          Bevell knows Russ better than anyone in the coaching world. He is the reason Seattle drafted Russ in the first place and he's a great option to get Russ back on track.
                          Evero might be taking help from Capers. We don't have that on offense.

                          Next HC should be an experienced one. NO MORE ROOKIE HC's.

                          Paton is the real culprit. If the owner is Bowlen, he would not have paid 200+ million to Russ.
                          He screwed this franchise and it's tough to recover.

                          His Draft picks are also OK(not great) .. Don't even talk about signing Randy Gregory , Gordon and the punter.

                          Never understood the hype around Paton in this board. It's all good if late rounder plays well.
                          Most of them will not win the games single handedly. It's the QB Position and he utterly failed in that.

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                          • #14
                            The Denver Broncos' roster and coaching staff will likely look a bit different in the next year. What are some mistakes they shouldn't make?  It's a valid...


                            Three mistakes to not make in the next calendar year

                            Failing to hire a new HC who has held the role already


                            I think the Broncos’ likely search for a new head coach in 2023 should have one very important requirement: they should have been a head coach before. It might sound childish on the surface to assume that someone who has been a head coach before is already more qualified than someone who hasn’t, but this is a chance the Broncos should not take.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by go_broncos View Post
                              https://predominantlyorange.com/2022...calendar-year/

                              Three mistakes to not make in the next calendar year

                              Failing to hire a new HC who has held the role already


                              I think the Broncos’ likely search for a new head coach in 2023 should have one very important requirement: they should have been a head coach before. It might sound childish on the surface to assume that someone who has been a head coach before is already more qualified than someone who hasn’t, but this is a chance the Broncos should not take.
                              I know, so many first time coaches just stinking up the joint this year (or not). I hear what you are saying but it should always be about hiring the best individual. This org is as good at selecting coaches as they are at picking QBs. Just a terrible combination.

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                              • #16
                                whether it’s Paton or someone else this is what I do

                                Hackett needs to go.

                                we need a HC that only does HC things.

                                the new HC must get the OC correct .

                                then i believe the Oline must be upgraded which they have the cap space and draft picks to do so in 2023

                                building an offensive identity to me is priority 1-5 next season and it starts with a solid Oline. the running backs will be fine

                                think there are other Mike McDaniels out there on teams waiting for their chance?

                                i don’t think this is a blow it up simply because in 2023 you have to ride with Russell whoever is here.

                                doubt Payton wants to come here.

                                Shut down the team 3 from Dove Valley. Russ is just one of 53 until he proves he’s not




                                also get a new conditioning coach just for change sake.


                                the OC is a as critical hire as HC then Oline. that’s it for 2023 IMO


                                Last edited by ceh; 11-16-2022, 11:29 AM.

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                                • 76er
                                  76er commented
                                  Editing a comment
                                  They do not have the cap space… unless of course you are good with parting ways with Dre’mont Jones. If you want to keep Jones he takes up at least 80% of the cap space you think we have.

                              • #17
                                Originally posted by Tangerine View Post

                                Somebody might be getting fired Monday
                                Anybody else sorta rooting for an L? It could get Hackett canned while saving Josh McDaniels’ job, so two birds with one stone. 👍🏻

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                                • #18
                                  Originally posted by Tangerine View Post

                                  Somebody might be getting fired Monday
                                  Raiders are too cash strapped to fire MCD. Lloyd doesn't have a ton of liquid cash. I'm sure he is paying Chucky still.

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                                  • #19
                                    Hackett cannot survive.


                                    it’s been the status quo since the Seattle game. Every game looks the same. No improvements. No adjustments. No accountability. Gordon shouldn’t even be on the team and yet he’s still their central RB fumbling constantly. Punter can’t even hit 50 yards. Zero adjustments for a struggling QB. Sellers by October.

                                    the one decent aspect of the team should be interim. If there’s no plans for Hackett in the future and not having their own 1st round pick, it’s mind blowing a change hasnt been made.

                                    here’s a basic idea that’s better than the status quo :

                                    fire Hackett and Outten after this game.

                                    interim to Evero. Give him some experience at the level for future possibilities.

                                    Give playcalling to Kubiak. He gets some experience for later years to move up in the ranks.


                                    seasons end try over pay for Payton(likely won’t happen) or fully vet HC candidates with more than Paton in the room.

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                                    • #20
                                      Originally posted by go_broncos View Post

                                      Evero might be taking help from Capers. We don't have that on offense.

                                      Next HC should be an experienced one. NO MORE ROOKIE HC's.

                                      Paton is the real culprit. If the owner is Bowlen, he would not have paid 200+ million to Russ.
                                      He screwed this franchise and it's tough to recover.

                                      His Draft picks are also OK(not great) .. Don't even talk about signing Randy Gregory , Gordon and the punter.

                                      Never understood the hype around Paton in this board. It's all good if late rounder plays well.
                                      Most of them will not win the games single handedly. It's the QB Position and he utterly failed in that.
                                      The problem with the no rookie HC thing is that the majority of the good coaches don't get fired. There might be 3 names out there that have held the position that are worthy of a 2nd chance.

                                      Reich, Quinn who I think Paton actually wanted to hire this year and Flores.

                                      Patons picks in rounds 1-3 have been stellar

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                                      • Shalowlow
                                        Shalowlow commented
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                                        Yeah I believe Paton wanted to hire Quinn but they wouldn't let him spend the money before the team was sold. But Paton was still duped into thinking Hackett was a good enough coach. It's amazing that they were classmates but Hackett had multiple opportunities as offensive coordinator while never actually excelling while Evero never got higher than a position coach. If that's not proof of nepotism I don't know what is.
                                        Anyway, let's see what happens when Paton can actually pick the guy he wants.

                                    • #21
                                      Originally posted by Tangerine View Post
                                      It’s extremely rare for a first year head coach to be fired mid season. About the only time it happens is when there’s some kind of scandal (Urban Meyer). Nobody should be surprised if he’s not fired until the end of the season.

                                      With that being said, it’s pretty wild how much of a disaster Hackett has been, crazy to be verging on Urban Meyer territory.
                                      I hear you, but just look at a quote from Hackett today. He was asked about the game against the Raiders and his response was, "somebody's got to win this game." If that doesn't scream "get me the hell out of here" I don't know what does...

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                                      • #22
                                        Originally posted by Tangerine View Post

                                        Somebody might be getting fired Monday
                                        It won't be McD. I doubt it will be Hack either as dysfunctional as this team is.....

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                                        • #23
                                          Originally posted by go_broncos View Post
                                          https://predominantlyorange.com/2022...calendar-year/

                                          Three mistakes to not make in the next calendar year

                                          Failing to hire a new HC who has held the role already


                                          I think the Broncos’ likely search for a new head coach in 2023 should have one very important requirement: they should have been a head coach before. It might sound childish on the surface to assume that someone who has been a head coach before is already more qualified than someone who hasn’t, but this is a chance the Broncos should not take.
                                          Absolutely! Look at the success they have had going with that strategy; VJ, Fangio and even McD. None of those guys had a clue what they were doing because they had never been a HC before. No more experimentation. Get someone with a resume of coaching success.

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                                          • #24
                                            Originally posted by ceh View Post
                                            whether it’s Paton or someone else this is what I do

                                            Hackett needs to go.

                                            we need a HC that only does HC things.

                                            the new HC must get the OC correct .

                                            then i believe the Oline must be upgraded which they have the cap space and draft picks to do so in 2023

                                            building an offensive identity to me is priority 1-5 next season and it starts with a solid Oline. the running backs will be fine

                                            think there are other Mike McDaniels out there on teams waiting for their chance?

                                            i don’t think this is a blow it up simply because in 2023 you have to ride with Russell whoever is here.

                                            doubt Payton wants to come here.

                                            Shut down the team 3 from Dove Valley. Russ is just one of 53 until he proves he’s not




                                            also get a new conditioning coach just for change sake.


                                            the OC is a as critical hire as HC then Oline. that’s it for 2023 IMO

                                            I agree with everything you said, with the exception of being fine at RB. Outside of JW, who do they really have? Gordon who can't hold onto the ball to save his life? Does Murray stay after this season? Will the injury to JW make him less effective? I personally think the RB situation is FAR from fine.

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                                            • #25
                                              Originally posted by darryn16 View Post
                                              Get someone with a resume of coaching success.
                                              Uh, hmmm.

                                              You get the problem with this theory, right?

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