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**Vera Hara** · 11-14-2022, 11:22 AM

Lou predicted the hot seat three weeks ago. Wow!

**wolf754life** · 11-14-2022, 11:27 AM

Georgiano’s days are dwindling….

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**wolf754life** · 11-14-2022, 11:44 AM

Paton and his bed bud Moogie and his committee can all G T F O

**wolf754life** · 11-14-2022, 11:50 AM

Paton set us back at least 5 years. I don't get why he gets so much credit as I watch Von, Chubb and Justin Jefferson make plays
— Mike Pate (@paterade79) November 13, 2022

**B-Large** · 11-14-2022, 11:57 AM

My only contention is the Wilson extension… I wouldn’t have committed that kind of money/ time to a guy that another NFL team decided wasn’t their guy anymore. Maybe I’m missing something?

we needed a QB, we got a QB. no qualms. But going all in, in the biggest way. Hmmm.

**wolf754life** · 11-14-2022, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by B-Large View Post

My only contention is the Wilson extension… I wouldn’t have committed that kind of money/ time to a guy that another NFL team decided wasn’t their guy anymore. Maybe I’m missing something?

we needed a QB, we got a QB. no qualms. But going all in, in the biggest way. Hmmm.

History will show what Malfeasance Georgiano committed in Denver when he had ALL the power…

**HopeChest** · 11-14-2022, 11:59 AM

Bringing up Von and Chubb is silly, IMO, especially with how the defense is playing. I don't know that we are really missing those guys although a timely Von strip sack would be nice, not that the offense would do anything with the opportunity. And Justin Jefferson was an Elway fubar, one of many. Perhaps what we are seeing is the Elway effect still playing out on this team. He was truly horrible and set this team back years with. Paton clearly made the wrong choice at HC. Did he even consider the ex-ball boy in Miami? I thought we were going to get some offensive innovation and instead we are stuck with Hackett. I think that is obviously the biggest strike against Paton, is the Hackett. Wilson is easy to harp on after the fact but at the time seemed like a ballsy swing for the fences that no one really had a problem with.

**HopeChest** · 11-14-2022, 12:02 PM

And really, anyone trading for Wilson would have extended him. I think that is disingenuous to criticize.

**cmhargrove** · 11-14-2022, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by HopeChest View Post

And really, anyone trading for Wilson would have extended him. I think that is disingenuous to criticize.

This is true, but inconvenient for the "nuclear narrative." I think Paton did a great job of going out and "getting his guy" at the right value. Unfortunately, that relationship is off to a rocky start (although I'm more optimistic than others that it can be salvaged with a new HC/OC). Just keep Evero for God's sake, the rest can go back to junior varsity.

**wolf754life** · 11-14-2022, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by HopeChest View Post

And really, anyone trading for Wilson would have extended him. I think that is disingenuous to criticize.

Paton’s job comes with risk no question…

Buy even if you calculated an extension for Wilson prior to the trade then it becomes too prohibitive in resource allotment and cost/control for the club.

the bottom line is Paton has made two M A S S I V E miscalculations in role defining choices.

He cannot be forgiven.

He must be held in contempt and relieved of his duties.

end of story…

**cmhargrove** · 11-14-2022, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by wolf754life View Post

Paton’s job comes with risk no question…

Buy even if you calculated an extension for Wilson prior to the trade then it becomes too prohibitive in resource allotment and cost/control for the club.

the bottom line is Paton has made two M A S S I V E miscalculations in role defining choices.

He cannot be forgiven.

He must be held in contempt and relieved of his duties.

end of story…

Now see, this is where you just start exaggerating to "over-prove" your point. With rollovers, the Broncos are looking like 17M under the 2023 cap (with 2022 rollovers). Thats WITH Wilson, and without any other substantive changes. This roster is actually pretty loaded with young talent, its just being misused (offensively).

**Ed Reed** · 11-14-2022, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by HopeChest View Post

And really, anyone trading for Wilson would have extended him. I think that is disingenuous to criticize.

I understand this in theory and it made sense to want to get ahead of the market. Most people were OK with it at the time. The only thing I can't seem to reconcile is, as bad as it's been, what in the world were they seeing at practice? I can't imagine it would be anything close to something making a person comfortable with that type of extension before any game action.

**The1percentKid** · 11-14-2022, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by wolf754life View Post

Broncos GM George Paton is now sitting on heated seats

https://predominantlyorange.com/2022...-heated-seats/

Denver Broncos General Manager George Paton has created a mess in Denver in his second season, and his seat warmer has just clicked to the “On” position. What we have in Denver is a total and utter disaster, and George Paton is the architect

Fire this bum.

this is what happens when you let a fired(resigned) GM hire the new GM.

total dysfunction…..

**The1percentKid** · 11-14-2022, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by wolf754life View Post

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Paton set us back at least 5 years. I don't get why he gets so much credit as I watch Von, Chubb and Justin Jefferson make plays</p>— Mike Pate (@paterade79) <a href="https://twitter.com/paterade79/status/1591905974679371778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Funny.

when we said this long ago we were bashed for it.

Tyler saying what I’ve been saying for 7 ****ing years.

**-Rod-** · 11-14-2022, 01:17 PM

What amuses me the most in this thread is this "Mike Pate" fella still thinking that Paton drafted Jeudy over Justin Jefferson. And that thing has 4 likes. At least do some homework before being critical.

**ceh** · 11-14-2022, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by -Rod- View Post

What amuses me the most in this thread is this "Mike Pate" fella still thinking that Paton drafted Jeudy over Justin Jefferson. And that thing has 4 likes. At least do some homework before being critical.

Its called confirmation bias. Those sites are just like this site. The qualification of those bloggers fall into the same qualifications as any poster on this site so if it matches their own point of view. Post it.

**darryn16** · 11-14-2022, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by B-Large View Post

My only contention is the Wilson extension… I wouldn’t have committed that kind of money/ time to a guy that another NFL team decided wasn’t their guy anymore. Maybe I’m missing something?

we needed a QB, we got a QB. no qualms. But going all in, in the biggest way. Hmmm.

No, you are exactly right! They should have never given RW an extension before they saw him play. This way, they could have said, "we'll roll with Wilson this season and move on from him for 2023. But, as we all know hindsight is 20/20......

**Old Coyote** · 11-14-2022, 02:09 PM

Paton needs to just draft a QB.
Trade the 2024 1st and jump up from 20 to get a guy. Or grab a QB at 20. And grab linemen in the 3rd.

Fire Hackett or not.
Maybe 1st rnd QB that can see over the line would hit all the schemed open guys?... But keep Evero at all costs, he can be the new head coach. I guarantee he has a better handle on adjusting even on O than Hackett anyway. And he can bring in an OC that he knows gives DC's tough games.

WIlson can ride pine and be the holder.
Hell, I'll also gladly take a 3rd round QB and a Tackle or center at 20 over keeping on the Wilson ride for another year.

Paton needs to provide options and Hackett should play Johnson already.
Wilson and Rypien are not answers.

**HopeChest** · 11-14-2022, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by The1percentKid View Post

Fire this bum.

this is what happens when you let a fired(resigned) GM hire the new GM.

total dysfunction…..

Elway, the only man in the league that could fire and promote himself at the same time! Pat Bowlen, RIP, for all his greatness really screwed up his succession plan.

**Yerner** · 11-14-2022, 02:41 PM

they need to clear out the entire operation including taking the keys from elway. the whole place stinks with loser.

**HopeChest** · 11-14-2022, 02:53 PM

I watch a lot of football and it's truly mind blowing how bad this team is offensively. It's not a talent thing, every team has talent (or lack thereof) in the NFL. The rules even are geared towards promoting offense. Carolina puts up 25 with PJ Walker throwing for 108 yards? Indy 25 with a HS coach? Arizona 27 with Colt Friggen McCoy? We can't score more than 10? And with the best defense in the league? None of it makes sense.

**Tangerine** · 11-14-2022, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by darryn16 View Post

No, you are exactly right! They should have never given RW an extension before they saw him play. This way, they could have said, "we'll roll with Wilson this season and move on from him for 2023. But, as we all know hindsight is 20/20......

That was never going to happen, these big trades always come with immediate extension. Whenever first round picks are involved in a trade, and new contract comes shortly after.

The problem is Wilson has completely pooped the bed, and is playing like one of the worst QBs in the NFL. He signed the massive contract with the understanding he could still play at a high level. Then proceeded to completely fail, throwing the team into a terrible situation.

Of course, this all will, as it should, blow back on Paton. There was risk with a QB at Russ’s age, Paton essentially put his career on the line.

**go_broncos** · 11-14-2022, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by Tangerine View Post

That was never going to happen, these big trades always come with immediate extension. Whenever first round picks are involved in a trade, and new contract comes shortly after.

The problem is Wilson has completely pooped the bed, and is playing like one of the worst QBs in the NFL. He signed the massive contract with the understanding he could still play at a high level. Then proceeded to completely fail, throwing the team into a terrible situation.

Of course, this all will, as it should, blow back on Paton. There was risk with a QB at Russ’s age, Paton essentially put his career on the line.

It's as if Russ doesn't even care anymore.. He got the money. Doesn't even get mad.

**Vera Hara** · 11-14-2022, 03:20 PM

The difference between this trade (RW3) and others with high draft capital (like Chubb) is the fact Denver had Wilson under two years of control from a prior contract. Many times that's not the case.

They were under absolutely no obligation to extend him and give him that much coin. Even though I was OK with Paton taking a swing to get a potential quality QB and the compensation involved [before we saw him play], I had stressed he shouldn't give him a new deal until they saw how he performed with a new coach, in a new system, on a new team.

Basic resource and financial management.

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