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    Jury reaches verdict in Ahmaud Arbery death case: All found guilty of murder (msn.com)


    All found guilty of murder. McMichael's father, Gregory McMichael, 65, was found not guilty of malice murder, but was convicted on the remaining charges, including the felony murder counts.

    The McMichael's neighbor, William "Roddie" Bryan, 53, was found guilty of three of the felony murder counts and a charge of criminal intent to commit a felony.
    McMichael's father, Gregory McMichael, 65, was found not guilty of malice murder, but was convicted on the remaining charges, including the felony murder counts.

    I knew these guys were going to get convicted. Another good job by a jury in a high profile case.




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    This one was easy. What’s funny is how the left screamed the justice system is a failure after Kyles self defense win…..

    So is it busted here in this case? Lol facts are facts. Video is video. It’s easy to see the difference in these cases. Both trials reached accurate verdicts.

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    • #3
      How a Prosecutor Addressed a Mostly White Jury and Won a Conviction in the Arbery Case

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ho...ase/ar-AAR8wOm


      What the crap, so white people can't be impartial anymore unless a skilled prosecutor is in the court room? These new progressive il-liberals are such a pain. I miss the days when you kind of forgot what racial group you belonged to since it didn't matter that much.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by uplink View Post
        How a Prosecutor Addressed a Mostly White Jury and Won a Conviction in the Arbery Case

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ho...ase/ar-AAR8wOm


        What the crap, so white people can't be impartial anymore unless a skilled prosecutor is in the court room? These new progressive il-liberals are such a pain. I miss the days when you kind of forgot what racial group you belonged to since it didn't matter that much.
        I'm not convinced such days ever existed in reality. In mythology and propaganda, perhaps....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

          I'm not convinced such days ever existed in reality. In mythology and propaganda, perhaps....
          I don't recall race being such an issue as it is today until about 10-15 or so years ago. Now everything is looked at through race first and foremost regardless of what it is.

          Morgan Freeman said it best when talking about black history month.




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          • #6
            Originally posted by BamaBronco16 View Post

            I don't recall race being such an issue as it is today until about 10-15 or so years ago. Now everything is looked at through race first and foremost regardless of what it is.
            Yeah all you have to do is look a the stats for mentions of race related things in the media. They have absolutely exploded in the last five years or so.

            I think the ship to racial harmony was on the right course and doing well but then there was one big problem that had to be fixed. The Dem controlled inner cities. Instead of adapting and really working to make the life's of their voters actually better in the inner city through better education for young people, the Dems resisted and launched us into the current race 1st politics we are in today.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BamaBronco16 View Post

              I don't recall race being such an issue as it is today until about 10-15 or so years ago. Now everything is looked at through race first and foremost regardless of what it is.

              Morgan Freeman said it best when talking about black history month.



              Just because we weren't taught in school about lynchings and massacres in black neighborhoods... or massacres of Native Americans ... does not mean those things didn't happen. They did. And let's not even get started on the mid-60s and the Civil Rights movement. Race has always been a huge issue throughout history.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

                Just because we weren't taught in school about lynchings and massacres in black neighborhoods... or massacres of Native Americans ... does not mean those things didn't happen. They did. And let's not even get started on the mid-60s and the Civil Rights movement. Race has always been a huge issue throughout history.
                Nobody is saying that those things didn't happen. Also, I did learn about those things in my History classes in public school, right here in Alabama. This was taught in schools.

                I'm sorry I wasn't around in the 60s and was just a small pup during the 70s. I toured all over the US and Europe with my family in the 80s, and I just never saw race relations as screwed up as they are now. I was not taught to like or dislike based off someone's skin color, and frankly until I hit my late 30s to early 40s, I really didn't care about skin color. But now, skin color is being shoved down our throats every single day. If all you did was watch the liberal news and never stepped outside, you would think people still had slaves.

                It's ****ing pathetic.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BamaBronco16 View Post

                  Nobody is saying that those things didn't happen. Also, I did learn about those things in my History classes in public school, right here in Alabama. This was taught in schools.

                  I'm sorry I wasn't around in the 60s and was just a small pup during the 70s. I toured all over the US and Europe with my family in the 80s, and I just never saw race relations as screwed up as they are now. I was not taught to like or dislike based off someone's skin color, and frankly until I hit my late 30s to early 40s, I really didn't care about skin color. But now, skin color is being shoved down our throats every single day. If all you did was watch the liberal news and never stepped outside, you would think people still had slaves.

                  It's ****ing pathetic.
                  hard to say the country wasn't talking about race history in the late 1970s when the most popular thing on TV by far was the 'Roots' miniseries. I was very young, but watched it with my family. The 1st thing I can remember ever watching on TV.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BamaBronco16 View Post
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                    Nobody is saying that those things didn't happen. Also, I did learn about those things in my History classes in public school, right here in Alabama. This was taught in schools.

                    I'm sorry I wasn't around in the 60s and was just a small pup during the 70s. I toured all over the US and Europe with my family in the 80s, and I just never saw race relations as screwed up as they are now. I was not taught to like or dislike based off someone's skin color, and frankly until I hit my late 30s to early 40s, I really didn't care about skin color. But now, skin color is being shoved down our throats every single day. If all you did was watch the liberal news and never stepped outside, you would think people still had slaves.

                    It's ****ing pathetic.
                    Ok, so if we know and acknowledge that race has always been a factor, then we cannot miss the "days when you kind of forgot what racial group you belonged to since it didn't matter that much" as Uplink stated above. I'll repeat that I'm not convinced those "days" ever really existed.

                    One doesn't have to have been alive during the Civil Rights movement to know that there was a lot of societal upheaval then. Marches and protests -- and even the assassination of MLK Jr. Race was, indeed, in the forefront of the news with schools being integrated and the end of things like separate drinking fountains for different skin colors (and there were significant numbers of people on both sides of those debates, too).

                    The difference is that in the past we didn't have access to national and world news 24/7 like we do through tv and internet today.

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                    • #11
                      ^^

                      This is why race is at the forefront of everything today. To you, those days probably never existed because you assign race issues to everything.

                      Like I said. I've never seen race relations as screwed up back in the 80's-2000's as they are now. IMO from what I have been around, race relations seemed to be getting better during that time.

                      THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THERE WEREN'T PROBLEMS BACK THEN. All caps so Blue can get the point hopefully.

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                      • #12
                        Same as Bama I was raised to not worry about race. I always thought the goal was to see everyone as a shade of grey or something and not really notice skin tone. I still remember my dad explaining nurture vs nature and how it effects people. If you look at groups that are struggling vs groups that are succeeding it's the support system $ and the expectations that are most different. If you examined the brains and body of both groups they are the damn same. To put so much focus on skin color as the cause for all these social problems is wrong. They should be focusing on improving support systems and raising expectations. Trailer park whites and inner city blacks are both stuck in the same cycle. Further dividing people by their race is not helping.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BamaBronco16 View Post
                          ^^

                          This is why race is at the forefront of everything today. To you, those days probably never existed because you assign race issues to everything.

                          Like I said. I've never seen race relations as screwed up back in the 80's-2000's as they are now. IMO from what I have been around, race relations seemed to be getting better during that time.

                          THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THERE WEREN'T PROBLEMS BACK THEN. All caps so Blue can get the point hopefully.
                          Race relations were screwed up back in the 80's-2000's -- you just didn't see it. There were no idyllic times when skin color didn't matter.

                          In the 80s there were more than just a few white supremacy groups active in the US, including The Order, which organized bank robberies and was responsible for at least one murder. Their reign of domestic terrorism ended with the leader being killed in a hail of law enforcement bullets on Whidbey Island.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Blueflame View Post

                            Race relations were screwed up back in the 80's-2000's -- you just didn't see it.
                            Ok, I don't know if you are just being intentionally ignorant of what I'm saying, or if you are just so damn hell bent in trying to put words in my mouth.

                            Not once did I say that race relations were not screwed up back in the 80s-2000s. I'm saying that IMO, they seem more screwed up today than they did back then.

                            Go ahead and get your last word in. I'm done with this stupid debate.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BamaBronco16 View Post

                              Ok, I don't know if you are just being intentionally ignorant of what I'm saying, or if you are just so damn hell bent in trying to put words in my mouth.

                              Not once did I say that race relations were not screwed up back in the 80s-2000s. I'm saying that IMO, they seem more screwed up today than they did back then.

                              Go ahead and get your last word in. I'm done with this stupid debate.
                              In Post #4, I was replying to Uplink (not you).

                              My stance is that I'm absolutely not convinced that there ever was a time when skin color didn't matter. You're free to disagree, but would be asked for a link to a time/place when that ever happened

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