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  • #1

    While we are unloading, I give you Albert Okwuegbunam.

    What is the deal? How does a player fall so far, so fast? During the offseason, the media is talking about him as one of the league's most likely breakout players. He was supposedly the reason we felt all warm inside about including Noah Fant in the Russell Wilson trade. And it makes sense that we'd expect him to be The Guy at tight end, after Fant was gone. Consider this:

    2021: Albert Owuegbunam - 33 Receptions; 3 TD
    Career (5 Seasons): Eric Saubert - 18 Receptions; 1 TD
    Career (6 Seasons): Eric Tomlinson - 18 Receptions; 1 TD

    So, in one season, he has more production than either of his backups have had in their entire careers. Dulcich? Great. I can't imagine we were going into the season expecting a rookie TE to provide much of anything - and that is even if he was healthy. And if Albert O is in the doghouse, as has been reported, for his unwillingness to block, why even draft Dulcich (who didn't exactly do a lot of blocking in college)?

    Did Albert O become a blocking liability this year? Does anyone know any more about why he's not only not getting looks; not only not getting playing time; he's not even being given the opportunity to dress?
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  • #2
    Judging by what we've seen from this coaching staff on offense, do you think Albert O is the problem? I understand he is not a reliable blocker, but he is a big receiver. It's not that hard to find a way to get something from what he does best.
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    • #3
      If I am KC, I call and offer a condidtional 7th. It's intradivision so if you are Denver you tell KC to kick rocks, but KC doesn't demand much blocking of the TE. Kelce isn't getting younger. I'll take a flyer on a guy I've seen run and catch and is big, fast and athletic.

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      • #4
        Wasn't ever good at blocking, Outten likes rotating tight ends, and he slipped in the draft because scouts questioned his dedication to football. Not surprising he fell out of favor.

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        • #5
          He doesn't block, that's one thing this coaching staff seems to value heavily.

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          • ColoradoBuff
            #5.1
            ColoradoBuff commented
            10-19-2022, 10:02 AM
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            No one blocks on this offense.
          • bronco militia
            #5.2
            bronco militia commented
            10-19-2022, 10:02 PM
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            Lol
        • #6
          I was pulling for him but he dropped everything thrown his way so there's that.

          Why the drop off ? No idea.

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          • #7
            Who knows with this piece of shit staff. He definitely brought a vertical threat but seemed kinda soft and had unreliable hands.

            Dulcich is going to be our best TE since 84 so I think in the end we’ll be okay with how this all played out
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            • #8
              Dulcich can read the coverage in addition to his catching skills. He was all over the field at UCLA. I’m not even sure Albert O cares or gives a crap about the playbook, or the coverage he’ll be facing.

              Even under the previous regime, he was dropping passes and getting crapped on by Fangio for being a pussy.

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              • #9
                I don't trust this coaching staff.. Remember how the previous coaching staff thought Von is old and can't pressure the QB.

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                • Old Coyote
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                  Old Coyote commented
                  10-18-2022, 10:05 PM
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                  No... I think it's different than that... they wanted him to play coverage OLB rather than straight Edge Rusher... I hated the idea of Fangio since he was hired. I told everyone that Kalil Mack would have had way better sack numbers out of Chicago in his prime of Fangio didn't make him hesitate half the time. But at least he got to go half the time (for some stupid reason Fangio made Chubb play that role instead of Von in our version)

                  Then they judged him on his coverage OLB abilities.

                  That was the stupidest move.
                  Hackett might be a moron too...
                  But he seems like he is open to growth, where Fangio was not.
              • #10
                Really not sure how the drop narrative ever came into play with AO. Allbright mentioned it several times, but that seems odd considering he had just one drop this year and two last year.

                Think it's different from that. There has to be something behind closed doors that the coaching staff sees during practices regarding effort or just general disposition/dedication that is off-putting. Thought there were comments on his poor effort from the last regime.

                Either way, at the very least a guy his size is worth deploying on seam routes or in the red zone. Hopefully they can flip him for something via trade.

                AO had five catches in the first game on six targets. Didn't look awful. TE utilization (passes) went down as a whole the past few weeks with a couple (2-3 targets) split among who we had each game. They've been more band aids in run support and pass pro than anything else.

                DEN saw a significant uptick in 11 personnel looks with Dulcich in there, but Russ only looked his way three times and missed two other attempts where he was wide open for sure. Definitely some truth to Wilson being allergic to TEs for most of his playing career, IMHO.

                Dulcich should end up being very good as long as he is targeted accordingly. Don't know if it will be as high as Fant was (all things considered), but he needs reps.
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                • #11
                  You’d think this clown show coaching staff would wanna try anything and everything to get this offense going. You got the worst offense in the league, which literally only completed 3 passes the entire 2nd half. Yet, they leave their receiving TE on the bench.

                  I mean, how bad can Albert O be?? He can’t be any worse than anybody else. He can’t block? So what…? 98% of the players on this offense can’t block…

                  Put him out there, see if he see make a play.
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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by Tangerine View Post
                    You’d think this clown show coaching staff would wanna try anything and everything to get this offense going. You got the worst offense in the league, which literally only completed 3 passes the entire 2nd half. Yet, they leave their receiving TE on the bench.

                    I mean, how bad can Albert O be?? He can’t be any worse than anybody else. He can’t block? So what…? 98% of the players on this offense can’t block…

                    Put him out there, see if he see make a play.
                    Dulcich made the most of his opportunities. A couple more big ones were missed.

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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by Zerovoltz View Post
                      If I am KC, I call and offer a condidtional 7th. It's intradivision so if you are Denver you tell KC to kick rocks, but KC doesn't demand much blocking of the TE. Kelce isn't getting younger. I'll take a flyer on a guy I've seen run and catch and is big, fast and athletic.
                      and he'd have the chance to watch Kelce prepare/ practice/ watch film... I'd like to see AO get a good opportunity to do that.... this is a good idea
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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by Requiem View Post
                        Really not sure how the drop narrative ever came into play with AO. Allbright mentioned it several times, but that seems odd considering he had just one drop this year and two last year.

                        Think it's different from that. There has to be something behind closed doors that the coaching staff sees during practices regarding effort or just general disposition/dedication that is off-putting. Thought there were comments on his poor effort from the last regime.

                        Either way, at the very least a guy his size is worth deploying on seam routes or in the red zone. Hopefully they can flip him for something via trade.

                        AO had five catches in the first game on six targets. Didn't look awful. TE utilization (passes) went down as a whole the past few weeks with a couple (2-3 targets) split among who we had each game. They've been more band aids in run support and pass pro than anything else.

                        DEN saw a significant uptick in 11 personnel looks with Dulcich in there, but Russ only looked his way three times and missed two other attempts where he was wide open for sure. Definitely some truth to Wilson being allergic to TEs for most of his playing career, IMHO.

                        Dulcich should end up being very good as long as he is targeted accordingly. Don't know if it will be as high as Fant was (all things considered), but he needs reps.
                        when Bowls went down and shuffle began, AO is a healthy scratch. probably not coincidence!

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                        • #15
                          Paton about to get ripped off again..

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                          • #16
                            It would be foolish to trade AO.

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                            • Tangerine
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                              Tangerine commented
                              10-19-2022, 01:13 PM
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                              Paton perked up when you said foolish
                            • Drunk Monkey
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                              Drunk Monkey commented
                              10-19-2022, 02:02 PM
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                              Trade Hackett instead. At this point I would take a treatable STD for him.
                          • #17
                            Albert O has similar measurements across the board to Kyle Pitts. He had 30 receptions in a limited role last year . Yet these morons can’t find a way to use him and instead leave him inactive, with 3 blocking TE’s active for a nonexistent running game.
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                            • #18
                              Originally posted by Tangerine View Post
                              Albert O has similar measurements across the board to Kyle Pitts. He had 30 receptions in a limited role last year . Yet these morons can’t find a way to use him and instead leave him inactive, with 3 blocking TE’s active for a nonexistent running game.
                              We keep talking about this team needed to adapt and change but everyone keeps talking about we need to run.

                              We have won and been ahead when we pass

                              We have lost every game once we switched to the run.

                              Maybe we go pass happy for a change. It seems to be working better then the run.

                              Someone on here somewhere posted a great read on how bad the games go in the second half and that because we switch to the run. Our star RB is gone. We don't trust our # 2 , our #3 sucks and #4 is old and doesn't know the play book.
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                              • #19
                                If this is truly about an inability to block effectively and not anything else than I'm at a loss for words. Slot him like a jumbo WR. Put him in a gold zone package. Throw him a slip screen out of a bunch and get him the ball in space. DO SOMETHING! You're averaging 16 ppg FFS. 😠
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                                • #20
                                  Originally posted by Don Eladio View Post
                                  If this is truly about an inability to block effectively and not anything else than I'm at a loss for words. Slot him like a jumbo WR. Put him in a gold zone package. Throw him a slip screen out of a bunch and get him the ball in space. DO SOMETHING! You're averaging 16 ppg FFS. 😠
                                  It's mind boggling that we can't use Albert O in this offense(especially in RZ).
                                  Any other coach would use him effectively.

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                                  • #21
                                    2021: Albert Owuegbunam - 33 Receptions; 3 TD
                                    Career (5 Seasons): Eric Saubert - 18 Receptions; 1 TD
                                    Career (6 Seasons): Eric Tomlinson - 18 Receptions; 1 TD​

                                    This itself tells you how dumb our coaching staff.

                                    Gordon fumbles the ball.. Yet, we keep giving it to him. On top of that, we bench the TE that can catch the ball.

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                                    • #22
                                      Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post

                                      Dulcich made the most of his opportunities. A couple more big ones were missed.
                                      Yeah Dulcich pretty much ended the AO experiment. Wonder if Paton tried trading AO in the Russ package and Seattle didn’t want him. I don’t know who or we’d get for a failed project.

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                                      • #23
                                        Our head coach just announced he's starting Gordon this week, after benching him in the middle of the last game and after Gordon has fumbled at a historically high rate.

                                        At this point, I take the benching of Albert O. as a ringing endorsement. I have zero faith in the judgment on the offensive side of the ball.
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                                        • #24
                                          I just want Rypien to start.
                                          We need a litmus test to prove who is the real stinker on the team. If it's Hackett, there will be no difference or Rypien will look bad. But if Rypien hits the open guy the scheme is designed to get open... And we dink down to scores... Especially if we make TDs... Then it will prove what I said about Wilson being mentally declined.

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                                          • #25
                                            Originally posted by Old Coyote View Post
                                            I just want Rypien to start.
                                            We need a litmus test to prove who is the real stinker on the team. If it's Hackett, there will be no difference or Rypien will look bad. But if Rypien hits the open guy the scheme is designed to get open... And we dink down to scores... Especially if we make TDs... Then it will prove what I said about Wilson being mentally declined.
                                            then what.

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                                            • Old Coyote
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                                              Old Coyote commented
                                              10-19-2022, 06:10 PM
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                                              Then we win a few games to keep from giving those Seattle hoodwinkers a top 10 pick. And we get a team that doesn't keep throwing helmets. And fans that actually cheer for their underdog instead of disappointed fans that keep expecting a top 5 QB out of the slow Hobbit. We can advertise our WRs if we do want a trade for one by actually throwing the ball to them when they are schemed open too.
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