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  • How does the defense not unload after that game?

    I just can’t believe it. I can’t believe that we can be this inept on offense. We can’t get anyone open - anyone! We can’t block anyone. Our leading rusher was on a practice squad two weeks ago - yeah, we lost Javonte; but we were supposedly as loaded at RB as any team in the league. We have a tight end who was the media’s en vogue “breakout player” during the offseason, and has gotten demoted to being a healthy scratch in just six weeks. We have special teams who can’t even get the right number of players on the field, and seem to have one total breakdown a game.

    And we have a defense that just keeps fighting - definitely at least a playoff-caliber defense. Yet we’re 2-4 - and not all that far removed from 0-6.

    I’ve watched a lot of football in my life. I can’t remember having ever seen anything like this team. How does the locker room not erupt after this latest debacle? I’m all about the idea of team in football - of the sum being greater than the parts. But this is just too much. They’d have every justification to just unleash.

  • #2
    Paton was the architect….

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    • #3
      Thanks to Paton for hiring Hackett..

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      • #4
        Certainly the worst I've ever seen in a Broncos uni, and I've been a fan a very long time.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by go_broncos View Post
          Thanks to Paton for hiring Hackett..
          Hanpicked the Qb and the Head Coach

          but the owners didn’t hand pick him…

          poor Georgiano….

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          • #6
            I'm not blaming Paton, no way.

            Biggest immediately fixable problem: Somebody else should call the plays. Hackett has enough to worry about as a first-time head coach, he shouldn't heap first-time play caller duties on top of that.

            I'm tempted to point out how close these games have been, how close we are to being 5-1. But that just points the finger right back at the problem Dom is talking about, that the defense is so many light years better than the offense that there could be trouble in that locker room pretty soon.

            In my opinion it's way too soon to fire Hackett. Why? Well, fumbles aren't Hackett's fault, yet three fumbles cost us the Seahawks and Raiders games. We be 4-2 if we held on to just two of those three fumbles.

            I say take away his play calling duties starting yesterday. Let him find his footing on the sidelines as a head coach first.

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            • Samiwindr
              Samiwindr commented
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              Who calls the plays, Outten? He’s way too green. They need experience on that sideline

            • BroncoBuff
              BroncoBuff commented
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              Agreed. I saw an internet article that suggested he hire Mike Shanahan as an offensive consultant. Wouldn't that be something.

          • #7
            Originally posted by BroncoBuff View Post
            I'm not blaming Paton, no way.

            Biggest immediately fixable problem: Somebody else should call the plays. Hackett has enough to worry about as a first-time head coach, he shouldn't heap first-time play caller duties on top of that.

            I'm tempted to point out how close these games have been, how close we are to being 5-1. But that just points the finger right back at the problem Dom is talking about, that the defense is so many light years better than the offense that there's going to be trouble pretty soon.

            In my opinion it's way too soon to fire Hackett. Why? We'll, fumbles aren't his fault. Yet three fumbles cost us the Seahawks and Raiders games. We be 4-2 if we held on to just two of those three fumbles.

            I say take away the play calling duties starting yesterday. Let him find his footing on the sidelines as a head coach first.
            Typical lawyer.

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            • #8
              Originally posted by DomCasual View Post
              I just can’t believe it. I can’t believe that we can be this inept on offense. We can’t get anyone open - anyone! We can’t block anyone. Our leading rusher was on a practice squad two weeks ago - yeah, we lost Javonte; but we were supposedly as loaded at RB as any team in the league. We have a tight end who was the media’s en vogue “breakout player” during the offseason, and has gotten demoted to being a healthy scratch in just six weeks. We have special teams who can’t even get the right number of players on the field, and seem to have one total breakdown a game.

              And we have a defense that just keeps fighting - definitely at least a playoff-caliber defense. Yet we’re 2-4 - and not all that far removed from 0-6.

              I’ve watched a lot of football in my life. I can’t remember having ever seen anything like this team. How does the locker room not erupt after this latest debacle? I’m all about the idea of team in football - of the sum being greater than the parts. But this is just too much. They’d have every justification to just unleash.
              Defense did not deserve that loss. Or the loss vs the Colts. Or the loss vs the Seahawks. Hackett has to go now. You can’t own that product on the field and keep your job. He should have hired a real OC, even if it was to install and run his offense. He bit off way more than he could chew by hiring such a junior staff and just got super lucky that Eviro turned out to be such a stud. Shotgun on 3rd and 1. Hell, shotgun with no hot read when you know the D is bringing the house. Terrible play calling. Felt bad for Washington, but the offense continues to hang this team out to dry.

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              • BroncoBuff
                BroncoBuff commented
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                Yeah, where the hell did he come up with shotgun on 3rd and 1?

            • #9
              Originally posted by Samiwindr View Post

              Defense did not deserve that loss. Or the loss vs the Colts. Or the loss vs the Seahawks. Hackett has to go now. You can’t own that product on the field and keep your job. He should have hired a real OC, even if it was to install and run his offense. He bit off way more than he could chew by hiring such a junior staff and just got super lucky that Eviro turned out to be such a stud. Shotgun on 3rd and 1. Hell, shotgun with no hot read when you know the D is bringing the house. Terrible play calling. Felt bad for Washington, but the offense continues to hang this team out to dry.
              No shows coming en masse Sunday

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              • #10
                Originally posted by wolf754life View Post

                Typical lawyer.
                Yeah? So you say fire Hackett now? Well I'm pissed off too, but that's way too soon.

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                • #11
                  Lol Hackett will now try to pivot to being the serious, all business disciplinarian type to get everyone to feel the urgency and that won’t work either.

                  On the other hand, I don’t think DJ Jones, Pat Surtain, Kareem Jackson etc. are really interested in the Step Brothers and Anchorman jokes anymore so he’s kinda ****ed either way.

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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by Aztec Bronco View Post
                    Lol Hackett will now try to pivot to being the serious, all business disciplinarian type to get everyone to feel the urgency and that won’t work either.

                    On the other hand, I don’t think DJ Jones, Pat Surtain, Kareem Jackson etc. are really interested in the Step Brothers and Anchorman jokes anymore so he’s kinda ****ed either way.
                    Players want out if Goober is around. No free agents coming to play for uncle Goober

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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by wolf754life View Post

                      Players want out if Goober is around. No free agents coming to play for uncle Goober
                      Hackett is toast for sure, just a matter of whether or not the owners have the stomach to make a real statement and do it in-season. I doubt it.

                      Paton will have to plead his case for another season. I think as long as he’s willing to make changes he can get by. Will they accept the Dan Quinn-Brian Schottenheimer plan?

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                      • #14
                        I read somewhere that the last time a team fired a 1st yr coach mid-season was SF in 1978, and I think that was 9 games in. If true, that’s unbelievable. I don’t know that firing Hackett know accomplishes anything. If they fire him now does that make the team better? I don’t see how.

                        Maybe they just force him to turn the offense over to Klint Kubiak. He’s the only one that has any experience in calling plays. OTOH, he is also the “passing game” coordinator so I don’t know if he’s the answer either.
                        Last edited by R8R H8R; 10-18-2022, 05:39 AM.

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                        • #15
                          Browning INT was hilarious- after intercepting the ball and then recovering his own fumble, my man BB, stands up and in Von Miller style signals first down Broncos with his arms, then back toward the Chargers, then back to Broncos direction…he don’t miss…

                          …freaking riot this man is!!! 😂 😂 😂

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                          • #16
                            Well the silver lining is, another embarrassing loss and Hack is one game closer to being replaced.

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                            • #17
                              It boggles my mind that some posters still support Hackett.

                              As an excuse, Hackett and Wilson comes up with Injury excuse.

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                              • #18
                                3rd-and-1: run the ba...oh wait. No obviously, Broncos should definitely go deep middle to KJ Hamler there, even though the run game is working, the QB has barely completed a pass since the second quarter, and you only need ONE yard.

                                You know who else thinks that? Emmanuel Sanders, but he’s just as confused as we are about the play calling.

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                                • #19
                                  Nathaniel (Can’t) Hackett


                                  Yikes. The man has no clue what he’s doing and shows no signs he’ll figure it out. On the most important drives of the game, Hackett calls run, run, incompletion. And as Ryan Greene joked on Twitter, the Broncos will run for one yard on any down other than third-and-1. And don’t forget 10 men on the field for punt coverage. Again. And don’t forget the penalties. Again. Denver is a sloppy, unprepared, stupid football team and that starts with Hackett.

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                                  • #20
                                    Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

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                                    • #21
                                      Originally posted by BroncoBuff View Post

                                      Yeah? So you say fire Hackett now? Well I'm pissed off too, but that's way too soon.
                                      Nope. You've got to save what's left of the team. If Hackett goes, and Evero is put in charge, the players see change happening. They have hope. It's a new slate. If not? Same ole bullshit, different day. It's only going to get worse. Cut out the disease and begin the cure.

                                      If Disasteruss continues to fail, sit him down. I would hate to see a player like Surtain (and others) wasted on a team with a shitty offense. NFL careers are short. Act now!

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                                      • #22
                                        We look like a college team.

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                                        • #23
                                          I feel bad for Hackett's kids at school today. Gonna need to leave the state.

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                                          • #24
                                            Originally posted by HopeChest View Post
                                            I feel bad for Hackett's kids at school today. Gonna need to leave the state.
                                            Paton too

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                                            • #25
                                              It’s such a mess I really hope they use this injury to shut down Wilson through the bye. Rypien is a smart QB I want to see if the offense looks better and is manageable with someone that can audible and see the field. I know the line sucks but I really feel like the only time Wilson is good is when the play breaks down. His pre-snap adjustments are non existent and he doesn’t see the field. Pete Carol knew he could coach a mobile QB but as time goes on he’s not a pocket passer and won’t have the longevity Brady or Manning has. Hes just too damn short and his escapability bought him time to see the field otherwise he is just not processing it.

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