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  • Too Soon?

    Disclaimer..beer n whisky
    but but is it time. Fire Hackett and. Get Sean Peyton in
    raging at another fade loss

  • #2
    Paytons rights still owned by New Orleans....you'd have to trade for him. ....Not sure Denver would want to expend more draft captial and reset at this point....plus you probably don't have what NO would want....probalby at least a 2nd.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Zerovoltz View Post
      Paytons rights still owned by New Orleans....you'd have to trade for him. ....Not sure Denver would want to expend more draft captial and reset at this point....plus you probably don't have what NO would want....probalby at least a 2nd.
      2nd is nothing.. Hackett type of coaching doesn't win games.. Totally abandoned the passing game when Wilson is playing well.
      He should adjust with Wilson's style and not the other way.

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      • #4
        Not sure that Sean Payton is the answer. He likes to keep QBs in the pocket. That just isn’t Russell Wilson. Hackett doesn’t want him running. In fact, after Russ’ run late in the 3rd he looked to Hackett and motioned to feed him. Hackett gave him the calm down/slow down signal.

        I have some crazy stories about the stuff going on in Denver right now. Some of it is not surprising… some of it is pretty absurd for a professional organization.

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        • #5
          It’s pretty hard to see the path forward with Hackett. What can he hang his hat on after four games?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 76er View Post
            Not sure that Sean Payton is the answer. He likes to keep QBs in the pocket. That just isn’t Russell Wilson. Hackett doesn’t want him running. In fact, after Russ’ run late in the 3rd he looked to Hackett and motioned to feed him. Hackett gave him the calm down/slow down signal.

            I have some crazy stories about the stuff going on in Denver right now. Some of it is not surprising… some of it is pretty absurd for a professional organization.
            You can go ahead and tell us the crazy stories. It's an anonymous message board.

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            • #7
              broncos could be 4-0 right now, but they also could easily be 0-4 right now as well.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gutless Drunk View Post

                You can go ahead and tell us the crazy stories. It's an anonymous message board.
                Denver light rail approves this message.

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                • #9
                  If we fire Hackett and hire a decent coach, we will win more games.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by uplink View Post
                    broncos could be 4-0 right now, but they also could easily be 0-4 right now as well.
                    The games we won are games we would have lost last year. We are not losing because of Hackett.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 76er View Post
                      Not sure that Sean Payton is the answer. He likes to keep QBs in the pocket. That just isn’t Russell Wilson. Hackett doesn’t want him running. In fact, after Russ’ run late in the 3rd he looked to Hackett and motioned to feed him. Hackett gave him the calm down/slow down signal.

                      I have some crazy stories about the stuff going on in Denver right now. Some of it is not surprising… some of it is pretty absurd for a professional organization.
                      Please fill us in. Enquiring minds need to know.

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                      • #12
                        Dunno, we’d be 0-4 right now under Fangio/Lock.

                        Peyton started out at 2-3 or 2-2 before that San Diego miracle comeback game. Russ/Hackett wasn’t the issue in this loss. It was missed tackles and the soft as charmin defense giving up 200 yards rushing. Not good.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 76er View Post
                          Not sure that Sean Payton is the answer. He likes to keep QBs in the pocket. That just isn’t Russell Wilson. Hackett doesn’t want him running. In fact, after Russ’ run late in the 3rd he looked to Hackett and motioned to feed him. Hackett gave him the calm down/slow down signal.

                          I have some crazy stories about the stuff going on in Denver right now. Some of it is not surprising… some of it is pretty absurd for a professional organization.
                          I’ll have to message Kaylore and see what he’s heard at the King Soopers produce section.

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                          • #14
                            There seems to be consensus that the best adjective to describe Hackett is "goofy" I'm trying to think of SB winning coaches where that is the first characteristic that comes to mind. I can't of think of a single one.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pogo View Post

                              The games we won are games we would have lost last year. We are not losing because of Hackett.
                              Can you tell us why we stopped passing the ball in 3rd quarter?
                              Its like we are paying his style rather than asking Wilson to win games.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Gordon Gekko View Post
                                Dunno, we’d be 0-4 right now under Fangio/Lock.

                                Peyton started out at 2-3 or 2-2 before that San Diego miracle comeback game. Russ/Hackett wasn’t the issue in this loss. It was missed tackles and the soft as charmin defense giving up 200 yards rushing. Not good.
                                Hackett being allergic to throwing the football on 1st down was absolutely an issue in this loss.

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                                • Broncocalijohn
                                  Broncocalijohn commented
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                                  I noticed that too and it wasn't giving us 2nd and 4 or even 5 where we can keep Raiders guessing what comes next. It was 2nd and 9.

                              • #17
                                Originally posted by Don Eladio View Post
                                There seems to be consensus that the best adjective to describe Hackett is "goofy" I'm trying to think of SB winning coaches where that is the first characteristic that comes to mind. I can't of think of a single one.
                                I've mentioned many times since he was hired....his antics will wear thin quickly if you aren't winning...AND if you aren't winning, a "goofy" coach who needs to chew some asses and instill some discipline and toughness...is not going to be able to convince his players that tough and disciplined is who he is. It will look fake and contrived. This is a problem.

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                                • #18
                                  Originally posted by 76er View Post
                                  Not sure that Sean Payton is the answer. He likes to keep QBs in the pocket. That just isn’t Russell Wilson. Hackett doesn’t want him running. In fact, after Russ’ run late in the 3rd he looked to Hackett and motioned to feed him. Hackett gave him the calm down/slow down signal.

                                  I have some crazy stories about the stuff going on in Denver right now. Some of it is not surprising… some of it is pretty absurd for a professional organization.
                                  Curious to hear what you know

                                  let me guess
                                  hackett has lost the locker room?

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                                  • #19
                                    Originally posted by Zerovoltz View Post

                                    I've mentioned many times since he was hired....his antics will wear thin quickly if you aren't winning...AND if you aren't winning, a "goofy" coach who needs to chew some asses and instill some discipline and toughness...is not going to be able to convince his players that tough and disciplined is who he is. It will look fake and contrived. This is a problem.
                                    Wow! This is almost spot on. A lot of truth in this post.

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                                    • #20
                                      Originally posted by Agent Zero View Post

                                      Curious to hear what you know

                                      let me guess
                                      hackett has lost the locker room?
                                      Not sure he ever had the locker room. Sounds like it has been a circus all along.

                                      Russ is not playing his game and it isn’t because he doesn’t want to.

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                                      • #21
                                        Originally posted by Don Eladio View Post
                                        Hackett being allergic to throwing the football on 1st down was absolutely an issue in this loss.
                                        I dunno, OL was a turnstile and Bolles had his holding issues reappear. OL was more effective on run plays. The issue was the D tackling and their inability to hold down the raiders.

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                                        • #22
                                          Originally posted by Agent Zero View Post

                                          Curious to hear what you know

                                          let me guess
                                          hackett has lost the locker room?
                                          Not sure about that, Sutton ran up to Hackett and hugged him after his TD.

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                                          • #23
                                            Hackett hasn’t lost the locker room. When they hit 3-7 or so players will lose interest then that’s when the locker room is lost. We watched this movie with Fangio and VJ….


                                            Hackett will be fired at years end if Paton wants to save his job.


                                            If people think Paton is willing to give an HC that had to hire a crutch to do HIS job 2 weeks into the season another year…..then that’s another example of what I’m pointing out in my homer thread….

                                            no way Paton does that if this is a 5-7 win season. 8 wins May save Hackett for one more year. Anything under and Paton will be fired after next year by keeping hackett for 2023.

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                                            • #24
                                              Originally posted by Gordon Gekko View Post

                                              Not sure about that, Sutton ran up to Hackett and hugged him after his TD.
                                              A lot of players like him and want to see him succeed. At the same time, they see the lax environment. The not using time wisely in the preseason. And then the constant stuff like, what do you guys think? That was in response to the penalties…”what do you guys think?”

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                                              • #25
                                                If Hackett is as bad as some are saying, now tell me how you feel about the GM who hired him. The same GM who didn't do enough to address the OL and ILB issues which were primary reasons why the Broncos lost today.

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                                                • Agent Zero
                                                  Agent Zero commented
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                                                  My guess is Paton went all in on trying to get Rodgers. Guess he thought getting Hackett was his only hope

                                                • cmhargrove
                                                  cmhargrove commented
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                                                  There is strong evidence to the contrary of the Rodgers thing. The Broncos started talking to the Seahawks earnestly and never even made an offer to GB. Like it or not, they chose Wilson.
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