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  • Javonte Williams has to have the lion's share.

    Not equal, but unequal share of carries. Not touches mind you. CARRIES.

    Don't mind the receptions, so don't misunderstand. He and Melvin Gordon dont need to have equal time.

    Not so down on Gordon as many of us should know, RBs have about 4 or 5 good prime seasons and so many drop off a cliff after that year 5.

    Need to get as much out of Williams while he is clearly the more effective runner. It may sound cruel, but to have the better, stronger, more effective back on the side in order to fulfill some poor notion that it must be portioned equally is dumb imo.

    Must use the more effective more. Does that make sense. Example...

    If there are 30 rush attempts by the Broncos in a game, Williams needs 20 and Gordon needs 10. Not 15 and 15.

    I think we all agree.

  • #2
    Yes..We all agree..Avoid Gordon as much as possible. I would even inactive him and bring Boone.

    Gordon fumbles at crucial moment.. Not sure, why we have signed him.

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    • #3
      I love his running style, but Williams has also shown the propensity to fumble. He needs to improve securing the ball to become a complete back.

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      • R8R H8R
        R8R H8R commented
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        He fumbled once last year, iirc. The WFT game.

    • #4
      Gordon was fine last game. His fumble wasn't as bad as Williams and he was running effectively too. Both guys seem to have a knack for fumbling. Williams might have only got 2 carries but he got a bunch of catches in the second half.

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      • #5
        Originally posted by DD55 View Post
        Gordon was fine last game. His fumble wasn't as bad as Williams and he was running effectively too.
        Not as bad.... worse.

        Gordon's fumble was the consequence of his own engagement and intention.

        Javonte's fumble was because of a broken play blowing up in his face.

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      • #6
        Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post

        Not as bad.... worse.

        Gordon's fumble was the consequence of his own engagement and intention.

        Javonte's fumble was because of a broken play blowing up in his face.
        This Is correct. Glasgow in there thinking it’s a pass play. No one told him or he didn’t listen that they changed the play to a run…


        Williams getting only 7 Carries at a 6 yard clip and not feeding him is pathetic….was told they’d go with the hot hand…nope. They even managed to **** that up.

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        • #7
          Gordon doesn’t get the benefit of doubt on fumbles. He’s lost that privilege. Williams does, for now.

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          • #8
            They may have been spelling Williams with Gordon due to all the targets and receptions he had, but I agree on seeing him get a min of 15 carries per game. It's going to be a tough balance between feeding our receivers and grinding teams down with Javonte.

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            • The1percentKid
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              It was odd. During the game I kept asking if Williams was injured in the 2nd half. Gordon started it. Not sure if they planned on Williams starting 1st and Gordon for the 3rd. But you always stick with the hot hand until that defense can stop him. They couldn’t but still chose Gordon. Maybe he was dinged up at the time.

          • #9
            Nah, they both deserve touches and limiting Williams touches will only help him late in the season.

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            • #10
              Originally posted by qbronco View Post
              I love his running style, but Williams has also shown the propensity to fumble. He needs to improve securing the ball to become a complete back.
              His second fumble as a pro and this shows he has the propensity to Fumble. Awesome, this board and the knee jerk reactions.

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              • #11
                Originally posted by Yerner View Post
                Nah, they both deserve touches and limiting Williams touches will only help him late in the season.
                How about you give Gordon the ball going up in numbers on the field and JW going down. Although I will cut Gordon a break after I rewatched it. It was 4th down and he didn't fumble until he had been stopped and was trying to reach it over the line.

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                • #12
                  Originally posted by quoydogs View Post

                  His second fumble as a pro and this shows he has the propensity to Fumble. Awesome, this board and the knee jerk reactions.
                  Williams fumble was on Hackett for running an Run/Pass option audible play out of a shotgun formation in the loudest part of lumen field.

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                  • #13
                    Originally posted by wolf754life View Post

                    Williams fumble was on Hackett for running an Run/Pass option audible play out of a shotgun formation in the loudest part of lumen field.
                    I bet somehow Fukushima was really Hackett's fault as well, right ?

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                    • R8R H8R
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                      Don't pay attention to wolf. He's a slimy troll that isn't interested in discussion. It was not a run/pass option; it was a pass play that Russell had authority to change, but Glasgow didn't hear it.

                  • #14
                    Originally posted by quoydogs View Post

                    I bet somehow Fukushima was really Hackett's fault as well, right ?
                    Sorry you don’t understand how all this has correlations….

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                    • #15
                      Originally posted by Yerner View Post
                      Nah, they both deserve touches and limiting Williams touches will only help him late in the season.
                      Try imagining Terrell Davis splitting time with Vaughn Hebron in XXXII.

                      Broncos don't win that SB if they do that.

                      People will say it's a different NFL. Well, I happen to believe balance is still key to the Lombardi.

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                      • #16
                        Originally posted by Midnightorange View Post

                        Try imagining Terrell Davis splitting time with Vaughn Hebron in XXXII.

                        Broncos don't win that SB if they do that.

                        People will say it's a different NFL. Well, I happen to believe balance is still key to the Lombardi.
                        The problem you have playing a player like TD where you take almost every snap is you kill your RB in a few seasons. I don't knkow that I've read that JW can handle every snap.
                        Last edited by quoydogs; 09-15-2022, 03:03 PM.

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                        • #17
                          Originally posted by quoydogs View Post

                          The problem you have playing a player like TD where you take almost every snap is you kill your RB in a few seasons. I don't that I've ready the JW can handle every snap.
                          Williams had 2 carries in the 2nd half after averaging 8.2 per carry in the first half.

                          Duuuurp Goober coaching….

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                          • #18
                            Originally posted by quoydogs View Post

                            His second fumble as a pro and this shows he has the propensity to Fumble. Awesome, this board and the knee jerk reactions.
                            Both fumbles were in goal line situations where defenses concentrate on trying to dislodge the ball. Sorry you don’t agree he needs to work on ball security. When it costs the team points, a fan has the right to be upset.

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                            • #19
                              Originally posted by qbronco View Post

                              Both fumbles were in goal line situations where defenses concentrate on trying to dislodge the ball. Sorry you don’t agree he needs to work on ball security. When it costs the team points, a fan has the right to be upset.
                              Shit happens man. It was his second fumble in over a year of play that was a completely busted play from the start. What exactly do you want from the man ?

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                              • #20
                                Next time one of our running backs fumble they lose a hand. Simple as that.

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                                • quoydogs
                                  quoydogs commented
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                                  lol

                                • R8R H8R
                                  R8R H8R commented
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                                  By the end of the season, Gordon will look like the Black Knight in MP's Holy Grail. Just a torso left.

                              • #21
                                Originally posted by quoydogs View Post

                                Shit happens man. It was his second fumble in over a year of play that was a completely busted play from the start. What exactly do you want from the man ?
                                Easy answer: Do your job and don’t fumble on the goal line, especially when your teammate previously did the same thing in the same game.

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                                • #22
                                  Originally posted by Midnightorange View Post

                                  Try imagining Terrell Davis splitting time with Vaughn Hebron in XXXII.
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                                  • #23
                                    Originally posted by Midnightorange View Post

                                    Try imagining Terrell Davis splitting time with Vaughn Hebron in XXXII.

                                    Broncos don't win that SB if they do that.

                                    People will say it's a different NFL. Well, I happen to believe balance is still key to the Lombardi.
                                    Well it was Louville and he almost cost then the game getting the carries in the 2nd quarter with fumbles etc. Fumble on 4th down needing to score vs 3rd down is different scenario.

                                    Do people even remember TD missed a quarter with a concussion Paul Mcguire said but should be back in the second d half? Just migraines but it probably was caused by head trauma. He would have been done the whole game in today's world.
                                    Last edited by DD55; 09-15-2022, 05:02 PM.

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                                    • #24
                                      Originally posted by quoydogs View Post

                                      The problem you have playing a player like TD where you take almost every snap is you kill your RB in a few seasons. I don't that I've ready the JW can handle every snap.
                                      I know and I use to think like that, but I have come realize this is a win now league. This season, this Sunday, now. Especially in a hard cap league where you cannot even keep half of your drafted players in 4 years if they all developed well.

                                      Think about that. A team drafts 7 players theoretically every year. If 5 of them are solid contributors, at least 2 of them are gone when up for a payday in 3 years.

                                      At least 2 of them. How many on the defense in 2015 were gone after they were developed by this team. Key contributors too.

                                      Trevathan and Malik off the top of my head. Jackson was a far bigger contributor than many fans think.

                                      The point is this is the way of the league. The Rams have been running their show just like that. Renting players for Huge dollars and going for it that year.

                                      Don't even think they care about the draft all that much anymore. Probably for the reasons I mentioned. Doesn't always work, but that is the league.

                                      We cannot afford to get too attached to the players on this team and that's a real problem with the image the league promoted and why it became such a success.

                                      I think Steve Sabol with John Facenda and Sam Spence orchestra played the biggest role and today's league is a far cry from what Rozelle and the promoters did back then.

                                      I'm not nearly as passionate about anymore. Makes me sick to watch Von on other teams lighting it up and we being ok with thar cause we knew this team made a "wise cap move." Sickening.

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                                      • #25
                                        Originally posted by Midnightorange View Post

                                        Try imagining Terrell Davis splitting time with Vaughn Hebron in XXXII.

                                        Broncos don't win that SB if they do that.

                                        People will say it's a different NFL. Well, I happen to believe balance is still key to the Lombardi.
                                        comparing gordon to hebron is so ****ing stupid. You’re an idiot reactionary ****tard that doesn’t understand what he’s watching

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