I feel like I am overly optimistic at 10 wins. The AFCW is brutal and the end of the schedule is going to be tough.

Just regular season? Or regular season and post season?

I edited my post to regular season wins. Thank you

11-6. I think going from Teddy B. / D. Suck to a real QB can improve the record by 3 wins, but I threw 1 more win out there for what J. Williams and Gordon might be able to do with a respected QB. They were the 2nd most productive RB duo last season. The division will be tough but at the same time the Broncos will make the biggest jump because of R. Wilson.

10-7 give or take one game. Obviously the West is stacked. Lots of questions surrounding this roster. KC likely wins the division. Denver sneaks in as a wildcard. Much of this is contigent upon Jeudy breaking out. Gregory/Chubb/Williams staying healthy etc.

Week 13-17 will fizzle out the team to 9 wins.

You honestly think RW3 only gets 2 more wins the TBW ? Put the pipe down.

The last 7 weeks are brutal. Early road games @Carolina @Baltimore back to back road games @KC @Rams

I said in another thread that as long as Wilson is healthy, our floor should be 9 wins. Our ceiling just depends on how healthy the rest of the team is. Since we don’t know that yet, I voted 10 wins as a compromise.

It’s beyond crazy. No other team has that type of brutal run. Gotta hope some of those teams are weaker toward the end through injuries or performance.

10 wins...

I'm going with a 10 win season if everyone stays healthy. There are so many factors that could up or reduce the win total. I just want a better product than the last few years on the field.

I've heard other AFCW fans whining that Denver got an easy schedule. They are too stupid to know that it is the same schedule minus 3 games. Those 3 games who knows how they play out too. Denver gets a 4th place Baltimore and I'd rather play any of the other 3 AFCN teams.

Practically the entire schedule is brutal for KC. They start off with @AZ, LAC, @Indy, @Tampa, LV, Buffalo, @SF, TN. They also have a 4-game stretch with @LAC, LA Rams, @ Cincy, @ Denver.

denver went 7-10 with Lock losing 4 and a half games in a row


9.5 seems right

10-7

I think everybody knows how scheduling works.

Three games is significant. Especially in a division like this one.

As long as you have Mahomes..you should not be worried.

I predicted 10 wins as we have a QB(Finally).. without him, we might win 3-4 games.

That schedule should worry anybody. If teams like Denver and LV live up to potential, KC will literally need their A game to win all but 2-3 games.

Would have been nice to at least open with a gimme or two while they break in the rookies and new WRs. I guess Hopkins being out is a decent break.

My natural pessimism says the offensive line isn't there yet, we have little to no depth at DL or ILB, pass rushers that can't seem to stay healthy, plus rookie coach, tough schedule, and we already lost our 2d best WR for the season. I hope I'm wrong. But I see 8-9, give or take a game. Anything beyond that is Wilson magic.

The entire west is going to have hard schedules because we all face each other and all the same opponents save three different games.

The three different games are you get the Buccaneers, Bills, and Bangals and we get the Ravens, Jets, and Panthers. Again otherwise the opponents are the same.
We get our tough run at the end, yours is more spread out. that's 4 good teams out of 6 across the lot.

I'm going to call that a two easier games advantage to the Broncos. Because I'm calling you a tough game for us and us a tough game for you.

But remember that panthers game is an east coast early game and the Broncos historically suck in those. And the Jags game is in Wembley Stadium in ****ing England at 7am Denver Time. So we could very well have problems at both those supposedly easy games over jet lag.

Is some sports betting shittier than other places? I went to Deadwood this weekend and I couldn't even do parlay bets for straight up winners for the NFL Week 1. Only parlays relative to the spread. Is that common? Seemed like bullshit to me.

with only the backups playing in the pre-season, i would wait until the first month to figure out this team. The offense seems to be light years better than the last 3 years. (**** you Fungio!!!!!)

I'm not sure they do. People always use you got the last or first place schedule. Teams change so much from year to year with injuries and free agents. Looking at it now Chargers at this point seem to have got the best draw with Falcons, Browns and Dolphins. KC got the toughest on paper but if Brady stayed retired it could have been a different story. You never know how tough the schedule was until after the season.

I think Wilson....like everyone does.....is a huge upgrade at QB. And like many also think...it will take time to GEL with a new offense, new QB, etc.

And like some think....this coaching staff is a whole bunch of guys who are all new to being head coach, OC, DC and so on. The new staff, has to get their sealegs and GEL too.

And last....only a few here also think this roster just isn't that good. I know the Pro Bowl is not a very good indicator of roster talent...it's a popularity contest and all that..and certainly Surtain should have been a pro bowler as a rookie....but you guys I think, over rate your roster. A little homerism is to be expected, but some of you...especially back on the 'mane would portray this team as having the best 52 men assembled, and just needing the 53rd guy to be a good QB. That isn't accurate.

I think the Broncos O line is a problem. Across the board. Wich Boles are you getting? Contract year Pro Bowl Boles that showed up for ONE season....or Boles of 2021, that was alot more like the Boles everyone was accustomed to? Is anyone really sold on the G-C-G combo...I've seen some of you note that Cushenberry finished up on a hight note. I've seen many concerned that Risner has dropped off...I've seen some put faith in Muti...but he's been unhealthy quite a bit...and I know many of you like Minerz. I've seen some praise your current RT Anderson as capable. NONE of that is especially inspiring there and I think Wilson, as he ages now, needs a line in front of him. (why would he bitch about it so much in Seattle if it wasn't important) ....Mind you, Wilson last year...his rushing total was a career low...by more than half his prior low. He can clearly still move, but the legs as a weapon, appear to be mostly done now as far as counting on that to be part of the package. That isn't to say his mobility isn't still a big part of his great passing prowess....it is. He can still move and scramble to make passing plays.

I think the Broncos LB's are the worst of that position grouping in the AFC west. I think Randy Gregory isn't going to live up to his contract and Bradley Chubb is what he is at this point...which is a decent plyaer..not a star, or big difference maker. I don't think the Broncos will generate enough of a pass rush to make up for the JAG LB corps or the ho hum interior D line.

I think I personally, rate the Bronco WR corps lower than most. I've seen the arguments about these guys getting stuck with bad QB's. It doesn't stick. It's not hard to find WR's that put up good numbers with bad QB's....I chuckle a bit when I see tweets about what great deals Denver got signing Sutton and Patrick to their "cheap" deals. ....you didn't get deals. You got the going rate for decent, but not great WR's.

The Secondary is very good, and the RB combo is high end.

I also think it's a mistake to overate the Broncos D in that Fangio did a couple things that made them look better than they were. Denver was thrid best in the leauge in NOT turning the ball over. A few of those were extremely bad times in games, but overall, Denver was great at ball security. .....and it's hard to believe, but Denver was 3rd in the NFL in drive time average....meaning, whilst they were not productive scoring at all, they held the ball and ran alot of clock when they did have it. Denver was actually 11th Overall in TOP. ....where it really shows up is if you compare Denver to Seattle in Yards per play. Denver gave up 5.3. Seattle gave up.........................5.4 One of those defenses was on the field ALOT MORE than the other. I'll let you guess which one was out there more often.

Fangio took a bunch of midling guys and did a GREAT job of playing a bunch of shell/zone looks, limiting their exposure by running clock and having an offense that didn't turn the ball over. It didn't work out ultimately because the offense was inneficient and couldn't score. He wasn't an idiot. He did what he could with the talent he had.

If you look at KC VS Denver D...on average per play basis..KC was as good or better, but had WAY more plays on the field overall due to the nature of hte offense KC runs.

I suspect with Wilson, and Hackett, Denver is going to open things up more. The Broncos D was a much bigger product of limiting exposure, and not so much a product of high end talent. That's going to be more evident if Denver's offense if more wide open, passes more and runs less clock.

To me, Wilson makes this very Average to below average roster....a fringe playoff contender, in a conference that is LOADED.

***Cut and pasted from one of my posts in my prediction thread****