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    Shanny didn’t get in….Only himself to blame…

    So many years of mediocrity, so much nothing after ELWAY…If he beats Jax they 3 peat. If he beats Pitt at home they win that super bowl.

    They way it ended in Denver and then Washington…very sad.

    ‘’very close, should get in, but the fact it hasn’t happened speaks volumes.
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    It’s crap. He should be in

    A good number of teams today still run his offense

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    • #3
      Oh **** off
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      • #4
        More Anti-Broncos bias, in my opinion. He was called the mastermind for a reason. B-2-B Super Bowl champion helps his credentials.
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        • #5
          🖕

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          • #6
            He is a Hall of Famer in my book
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            • #7
              I have no idea how he was skipped. Stupid.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by wolf754life View Post
                So many years of mediocrity, so much nothing after ELWAY…If he beats Jax they 3 peat. If he beats Pitt at home they win that super bowl.

                They way it ended in Denver and then Washington…very sad.

                ‘’very close, should get in, but the fact it hasn’t happened speaks volumes.
                If not winning 3 Super Bowls has kept Shanahan out of the HoF, then can you tell me why Don Coryell just got in?

                Coryell's record in the NFL: 114–89–1, 3–6 in playoffs. No rings.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by -Rod- View Post

                  If not winning 3 Super Bowls has kept Shanahan out of the HoF, then can you tell me why Don Coryell just got in?

                  Coryell's record in the NFL: 114–89–1, 3–6 in playoffs. No rings.

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                  I don't have problem with Coryell getting in because he is the one of the father of modern passing game. But the question is why he (Coryell) wasn't put in before Vermeil or Cowher. Shanhan not only has the SB wins, but also created an offense that combined the outside zone and WC offense that is staple of the modern NFL.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by elsid13 View Post

                    I don't have problem with Coryell getting in because he is the one of the father of modern passing game.
                    Yes. Coryell opened up the passing game. Shanahan's offense is spread throughout the NFL today. Both were game innovators. One did it while winning championships.

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                    • #11
                      If Randy Gradishar had played for Washington, the Giants, the 49ers, the Steelers, the Cowboys or the Bears, he'd have been in the HOF years ago.
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                      • #12
                        I can't find anything saying Shanahan has been eliminated. Do you have a link

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gunns View Post
                          I can't find anything saying Shanahan has been eliminated. Do you have a link

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wolf754life View Post
                            So many years of mediocrity, so much nothing after ELWAY…If he beats Jax they 3 peat. If he beats Pitt at home they win that super bowl.

                            They way it ended in Denver and then Washington…very sad.

                            ‘’very close, should get in, but the fact it hasn’t happened speaks volumes.
                            Everyone thinks that Jags game was due to them resting players at the end. Just pure crap. That game if they were so rusty, they wouldn't have jumped out to a 12-0 lead so quickly.

                            No, it was about match-ups and that is what football usually comes down to. The Jags OL behind two bookend HOF tackles overwhelmed the Broncos rather feeble DL. Michael Dean Perry was finished. Dan Williams was horrible. Then with Natrone Means they simply overmatched Denver that day.

                            Shanahan then overhauled that DL the next year. Drafted Trevor Pryce in the first round, signed Keith Traylor, and signed Neil Smith. That was why the Broncos crushed the Jags the next year.

                            The Broncos under Shanahan after Elway averaged about 10 wins a season. Under Shanahan Brian Griese made a pro bowl and so did Jake Plummer. Both had their best seasons as pros under Shanahan.

                            How many SB wins did Elway have before Shanahan? Oh none? Got it.

                            Also, what's the great Belichick's record without Brady? He's coached I believe 10 seasons without Brady.

                            Is it below or under .500? Hmmmmm?

                            Oh, and RGIII was also productive and an actual pro bowler under Shanahan....

                            Sigh

                            Last edited by Midnightorange; 08-25-2022, 07:05 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Shanahan after Elway was always chasing the next ring instead of building a team. His resume and impact on the game should be asked.

                              Without the zone blocking scheme is the NFL still the same? His effect is lasting over 25 years now.

                              Maybe Mike will be dead like Don but he will get in
                              Last edited by ceh; 08-25-2022, 07:58 AM.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by ceh View Post
                                Shanahan after Elway was always chasing the next ring instead of building a team. His resume and impact on the game should be asked.

                                Without the zone blocking scheme is the NFL still the same? His effect is lasting over 25 years now. He will get in.
                                So therefore Belichick's resume should be questioned too. Right or no?

                                No eh?

                                Belichick is 70-79 overall without Brady and 29-58 against teams with a . 500 winning percentage or better.

                                That's either 9 or 10 seasons without Brady. Funny too. In 2000 with what turned out to be a SB roster the Pats behind Bledsoe were 5-11. The next season, 2001 they started out 0-2 with was a SB roster behind Bledsoe.


                                If not for that play, its a very distinct possibility Belichick would have been fired and possibly would never had known about Brady.

                                Thanks Mo Lewis

                                without Elway Shanhan compiled a 91-69 record in Denver. He also coached the Redskins to the playoffs with RGIII.

                                Huh

                                Ever see the record against Brady and Belichick? Didnt the Broncos end their unbeaten 10-0 record in the playoffs?

                                Huh
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by BroncoJoe View Post

                                  Would they snub Belichick? Is it the old East Coast bias thing coming up again?
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by qbronco View Post
                                    More Anti-Broncos bias, in my opinion. He was called the mastermind for a reason. B-2-B Super Bowl champion helps his credentials.
                                    Yes, it means it's not a fluke. Not many teams have done it.
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                                    • #19
                                      He'll get in next year. I think every coach with back to back super bowls is in the HOF. Except Shanahan and Bill, and Bill is still active.

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                                      • #20
                                        Packers - Vince
                                        Miami - Shula
                                        Steelers - Noll (Twice)
                                        Cowboys - Jimmy
                                        Denver - Shanahan
                                        Pats - Bill

                                        49ers went back-to-back...but the first was Walsh's last season.

                                        Pete Carroll was one play away from doing it.

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by wolf754life View Post
                                          So many years of mediocrity, so much nothing after ELWAY…If he beats Jax they 3 peat. If he beats Pitt at home they win that super bowl.

                                          They way it ended in Denver and then Washington…very sad.

                                          ‘’very close, should get in, but the fact it hasn’t happened speaks volumes.
                                          So you’re saying he had to be damn near perfect? Even great coaches lose games look at Bill Belichick. The reason Shanahan is not in is because Dan Fouts is in the nfl media and did everything he could along with his nfl media buddies around him to get his former coach in ahead of Shanahan.

                                          Mike Shanahan will be there and even Dan Reeves will be there. Dan Reeves went to four Super Bowls and didn’t win any of them yet he will still get in just as Jim Kelly’s former coach in Buffalo and just as Fran Tarkingtons former coach in Minnesota are.
                                          Last edited by Sam; 08-25-2022, 12:47 PM.
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                                          • #22
                                            Originally posted by wolf754life View Post
                                            So many years of mediocrity, so much nothing after ELWAY…If he beats Jax they 3 peat. If he beats Pitt at home they win that super bowl.

                                            They way it ended in Denver and then Washington…very sad.

                                            ‘’very close, should get in, but the fact it hasn’t happened speaks volumes.
                                            A lot of what if scenerios in your statements. I should say alot of emotion and not much reality.
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                                            • #23
                                              The Shanahan zone blocking offensive system with Elway/TD/Griffith/Sharpe, et al was a well-oiled machine. A thing of beauty to watch. Never seen the like, before or since. Everybody in the NFL knew what we were going to do, and by halftime we'd still have 30 points on the board. It was unstoppable. And when we lost TD and plugged in Anderson, it just kept going. The Massholes can take their Hall and shove it up their asses.

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                                              • #24
                                                It's funny I can guess the poster based on certain thread titles. 100% right again! =)

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                                                • #25
                                                  My issue is the Pro Football Hall of Fame should give priority to living candidates like Shanahan.

                                                  Don Coryell and Dan Reeves already got screwed by not getting elected while alive.

                                                  That was heartbreaking to see CU Buff Cliff Branch get inducted posthumously this year. Branch should have been in a long time ago, and he was arguably the best player in what was a weak class.

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